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I do not admire anyone who states their belief and then proposes to oppress and enslave people because of it. There is no courage needed for her position of depriving women of the right to decide on their own bodies. I am perfectly able to decide on my own if I want to dye my hair green or not, or shave it off or not, or cover it with a scarf or not.

Exactly.  And echoing (I think) Drew's point below, the burden of proof should not be on the woman to prove that she chose to wear the veil of her own free will, but on the state to prove in any individual case that she was forced to wear it.

You say this must be discussed. Experience shows that there is no common ground here, no shared principles to base such a discussion on. It saddened me enormously when I found that out.

Part of me agrees with you, but part of me believes that we have not tried enough (see my signature).  Also, after posting that comment, I found quite a lot of radio, TV, and news items in France discussing and arguing the issue, from both points of view, so I was unfair in my statement.

Point n'est besoin d'espérer pour entreprendre, ni de réussir pour persévérer. - Charles le Téméraire

by marco on Sat Apr 9th, 2016 at 01:38:31 AM EST
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