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Oh, and I recall Sanders specifically speaking about the greater impact of the GFC on Black and Hispanic Households, but acknowledging that would have undercut Taibbi's argument.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun May 15th, 2016 at 09:04:18 AM EST
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Well, Taibbi's argument is not that Sanders never mentioned Wall Street's impact on African Americans and Latinos, but when Clinton, a few weeks ago, declared:

"If we broke up the big banks tomorrow," Clinton asked, "would that end racism?"

...he didn't catch that ball even though Clinton was opening him a boulevard.

How well would that have played out with  African American and Latino voters? Being neither, I cannot tell.

by Bernard on Sun May 15th, 2016 at 09:31:10 AM EST
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Sanders doesn't campaign based on pandering to specific groups. He believes he has a message that applies to all and goes to lengths to make sure that various groups understand that they are included in that all. This is confusing for people who can no longer conceive that it is possible to campaign without pandering to specific groups and building a coalition of those to whom your campaign panders. Taibbi appears to be among those so confused in this instance.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun May 15th, 2016 at 01:32:11 PM EST
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This is just a rationalization, supposition. I am with Taibbi on this, that Sanders missed opportunities for bold assertions on race, or did not notice them.
by das monde on Sun May 15th, 2016 at 08:19:58 PM EST
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Maybe he missed them, and maybe it was just beyond him.  He clearly means well, but too often seems like he doesn't have his heart in issues of race the same way he does regarding issues of class.  

That kind of line from Hillary is abominable, but I've read enough of the discussions on Kos to see that they are effective, and that there are many more people ready to respond to race and gender issues than there are for class issues.

Sanders seemed to be aiming for a message and a movement that put class and inequality first, and of course supported all those other liberal issues too.  Given what I've seen, I don't think that can work in the modern American political environment.  Racial and social issues need to be front and center, and pull class and economics along with them.

Unfortunately, Hillary seems to be focused on an either/or dynamic that puts her shady deals with the 1% off limits.  Such are the times.

by Zwackus on Mon May 16th, 2016 at 03:18:07 AM EST
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Which is the point of US tribal politics: tribe before class. Which is convenient for capitalism. (Though it's symbolic rather than the result of a conspiracy: tribal politics and capitalism reinforce each other.)
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon May 16th, 2016 at 05:13:51 AM EST
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Which is why Northern Ireland politics has always been about religion rather than class. Capitalist media organs support the tribal/race/religion divise dialectic in order to distract from class.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon May 16th, 2016 at 11:56:23 AM EST
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For whatever it is worth, I doubt that he was unaware of the power of appealing to race and believe, instead, that he simply chose not to go there. He never did genuflect before Black Lives Matter. Instead he recruited surrogates and himself spoke directly to black audiences emphasizing the length and extent of his history of addressing problems that afflict blacks and other minorities and how his class based agenda will address their wrongs, and, if enacted, redress them. His goal seems to be to win on terms that allow him to push his agenda - not to win at any cost.

I have to agree that this is the best way forward. It would allow everyone's needs to be addressed as part of a common strategy while also serving the real needs of all. What gets sacrificed are the wants of the very rich. Give them what they need and let them readjust their wants.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon May 16th, 2016 at 09:04:19 AM EST
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The best way forward wins actual victories, not moral victories.

It will be cold comfort, knowing that one fought the fight in the right way, when I starve to death in a giant pothole after having been deemed too old and too unattractive to make the cut as a domestic slave.

by Zwackus on Mon May 16th, 2016 at 11:29:34 PM EST
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You might feel slightly better knowing you had done what you could to change the system than you would had you been a willing slave and still suffered the same fate.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue May 17th, 2016 at 09:18:17 AM EST
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