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I would also note that there is a time and place for everything. Burke is certainly a poor guide to how to conduct a revolution, but once the revolution is won and it come time to lock in the results of that revolution, many of the things Burke has to say and that the founding fathers of the USA did become highly relevant. At that point we want something that can endure the test of time.

Notable here are issues of money and banking, corporations, of fictitious bodies, the entire realm of publicly granted monopolies, pros and cons, and the social, economic, and ecological obligations of a government that is to serve all. That needs to be thought through and argued very carefully before final language is selected. In the case of the USA this would properly take the form of constitutional amendments.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu May 26th, 2016 at 06:07:20 PM EST
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Although it should be noted that in the USA, Constitutional Amendments are notoriously difficult to enact, and so few amendments have been passed in the last century.  This was intentionally and understandably so when the priority was to lock in revolutionary gains. It may be more problematic now when constitutional reforms are urgently needed,  Gun control, anyone?

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Thu May 26th, 2016 at 06:14:54 PM EST
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Corporate person-hood? Corporate liability? The legal obligation of the President and Department of Justice to provide equal justice for all? Limits to the ability of the wealthy to bury the population with practically uncontested, self serving bullshit? The diminution of the role of the 'free press' by consolidation and ownership by the incumbent economic elites? On and on.

The general public has been served so poorly by the existing public education system that most cannot make heads or tails of what has happened to them and they have been the target of deliberately confusing and distracting propaganda designed to keep the agitated and focused on things that don't matter to the elites. Right now I would not want to even try constitutional amendments. I think we need to wait until the present millennial generation has fully moved into adulthood.

With Donald Trump now having clinched the Republican nomination I think that the election in November will give us a good read on whether we have gathered enough support to contemplate making real changes and how long that might take. And I hope Sanders keeps his organization intact and functioning to continue to build support, starting Nov. 3, for more progressives in the congress in 2018.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu May 26th, 2016 at 07:55:12 PM EST
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