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Martin Schulz was reportedly very much pissed off when Cameron announced that the start of exit proceedings would be left to his successor. "White hot anger", "banged his fist on a table" when he watched Cameron's speech with the EUP faction leaders.

An internal strategy document from the German ministry of finance stressed that no special favorable treatment must be given to the UK when it comes to market access to avoid copycats.

I think we'll end up with something between a Norway and Switzerland kind of deal with immigration of course being the most contentious issue.

The Exit Soundtrack: you want out..?

A pyrrhic victory? Boris Johnson wakes up to the costs of Brexit - Guardian

He has everything he ever wanted. It's just that somehow, as he fought his way through booing crowds on his Islington doorstep before holding an uncharacteristically subdued press conference on Friday morning, it didn't really look that way.

One group of Tory remainers watching the speech on TV jeered out loud when a rather pale Johnson said leaving Europe needn't mean pulling up the drawbridge; that this epic victory for Nigel Farage could somehow "take the wind out of the sails" of anyone playing politics with immigration. Too late for all that now, one said.

The scariest possibility, however, is that he actually meant it. That like most of Westminster, Johnson always imagined we'd grudgingly vote to stay in the end. That he too missed the anger bubbling beneath the surface, and is now as shocked as anyone else by the enormity of has happened.

Was it the rain? If young people wanted to stay in by 75% why didn't that come through? Was it the false sense of security in late polls? Demographics? Or are the millenials really as pathetic as people denigrate them to be?

If you're young and angry about the EU referendum, you're right to be - Guardian

The coming years will see, I imagine, perhaps your first experience of how politics - that cocky and inscrutable performance that plays out through your screens - can breach the disconnect and impinge on concrete aspects of your own life. Yes, as a demographic, we have lost, but at the same time we have made a powerful statement It's a lesson that I feel my own generation learned too late, the result of which has been apathy, a lack of political engagement, and the feeling that there is no point participating in a system that does not have our interests at heart.

Schengen is toast!
by epochepoque on Fri Jun 24th, 2016 at 07:55:29 PM EST
This is nothing. Wait till Trump ascends to the White House ... these are the good old days about which you'll tell your children.

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Fri Jun 24th, 2016 at 08:21:16 PM EST
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There may well be no rush to exit. Everyone now is saying that the break should be quick and final, but the start of the process requires a government that will notify the EU of the beginning of the proces, Boris Johnson has said there is no hurry, and Cameron has decided to leave it to the next government.

Especially if more Brits come to regret the vote and if a new government cannot be formed without new elections, it would be of no advantage to start the process. Wait until there is a government in place. And what if there is a new government that is elected on a promise to revisit the leave decision? A lot can change in a few months.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Jun 25th, 2016 at 01:22:40 AM EST
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I read another strong factor, similar to the US Democratic primaries, was a high share of postal votes: the late poll swing back to Remain didn't affect ballots already mailed.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Jun 25th, 2016 at 07:56:11 AM EST
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About young people:

'Get stuck in' - Billy Bragg rallies Glastonbury in Brexit aftermath | Politics | The Guardian

Speaking before his performance, Glastonbury stalwart Billy Bragg offered a call to arms to the young generation, the majority of whom voted to stay in the EU. Admitting he had not voted when he first got the vote in 1979, Bragg said now was not the time for political apathy.

"My guess is there's a lot of young people who woke up this morning thinking, there's absolutely no way this country would be so stupid to vote us out," he said. "You probably thought there's no point in going to the polling station, I'll let someone else do that. I'm not here to condemn them, after I made the mistake I got stuck into the fight. So now it's your job to get stuck in."

His message was echoed by Clive Lewis, Labour MP for Norfolk South, who called for "progressives" to rebuild, be resolute and help him make the world know that "the England Nigel Farage represents is not the UK I want to be part of".

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Jun 25th, 2016 at 08:03:20 AM EST
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