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Frankly, there is a majority in the House to say "Stay". But I really doubt that the legitimacy of parliament itself could survive thwarting the expressed will of the electorate in that way.
I think it would probably open the doors to a ukip parliament at the following GE and nobody who cares for the health of civic society would want that. keep to the Fen Causeway
But they didn't plan for the result of their wrecking ball. As somebody asked today, do you expect arsonists to bring water to their fire?
As is usual with these Eton toffs, politics is just a parlour game without consequences for them. It's just brinkmanship for applause at their Gentleman's Club. The realisation that they really have torpedoed SS Great Britain is beginning to sink home and they don't know what to do.
Cameron bears all the blame, as I've said ever since this whole sorry affair started is that his first job was not to let the British public, conditioned by the tabloids, have a bloody referendum on membership. They broke it and now they're gonna have to go down in history as being to blame for it.
Although right now the media seem to have decided that it's all Corbyn's fault, along with England's exit from the European Championship. To think there was a time when I just thought Cameron was a pig fucker, they're all at it keep to the Fen Causeway
To think there was a time when I just thought Cameron was a pig fucker,
Is that a more, or less civilized version of "motherfucker", or is it just British? They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
Like, "Holy shit, when did the BBC become Fox News?"-toxic.
Even traditionally left-leaning papers over there barely even qualify as Blairite trash anymore.
What's more, at least over here in the MSM you've got some younger reporters coming up who aren't beholden to the ancient Reaganist dogma (Olivia Nuzzi, Dave Weigel, etc), and the rise of "data journalism" and new media -- everything from HuffPo to Vox to FiveThirtyEight to the NYT's 6,000 blogs -- seems to be producing actual useful journalism again to counteract the cable news nonsense. Within five minutes of Donald Trump saying something stupid, it's been debunked by news sites and turned into some sort of brutal social media meme.
That hasn't really happened over there. At least not to anywhere near the same extent. Political coverage is getting better here, albeit slowly. Over there, it's a god-damned horror show.
A lot of media personalities here -- whether they support him or not -- genuinely like Bernie and are sympathetic to his causes, or at least feel they deserve a hearing. Bernie would simply be denounced as a lunatic in the UK media. Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
Dacre/Rothermere on their own are more or less manageable. But when they're playing on a tag team with Gollum, sanity becomes that much harder to find.
Corbyn has deliberately been sidelining the MSM and going social, which is an excellent long-term strategy. He may have run out of time, but I think he's laid enough of a foundation to keep some momentum going even if he's taken out.
So we only have another term of this - two at most. There may not be much left by then, but when the tide turns the change is going to be epic.
Corbyn has deliberately been sidelining the MSM and going social...
And that is as much the fault of the people who surround him who should doe exactly what Sanders' team were doing for him, filling in the gaps with a social media blitz.
Which is why supporting Corbyn and expecting him to win the next election is a bit of a struggle, he's just not working in the 21st century but expecting to communicate with people who do. Personally, I wish there was somebody else, but we are where we are keep to the Fen Causeway
That's the whole problem with the coup. If there's a potential leader to be found on short notice within the pool of Labour MPs, it's not obvious. Everybody's locked into either the Blairite or the anti-Blairite factions. Nobody's really got a vision for what Labour should be.
Simply saying "Recruit a bunch of young progressives to run against establishment figures" sounds great. In the US, you can do that via our primary process and grassroots fundraising. Dem and Rep activists have both pulled it off in recent history. Not so easy in Britain. The parties there are incredibly powerful. Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
At this point I'm beginning to suspect that the best way forward is to invite everyone from the last forty years of politics to Westminster, and then bury it under half a mile of concrete.
The problem with Corbyn, from my view, is this: Other than opposition to austerity (which I'm, of course, with him 110% on) and the National Investment Bank/"People's QE" (which sounded intriguing but, alas, was probably largely just populist rhetoric), I don't really understand what he stands for. He seems to have been a protest candidate who won, and now he doesn't really know what to do. The dog who caught the car, basically.
I could be wrong, but that's my impression of him. Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
Sure, anachronistic. Completely unadapted to the current political landscape, yes!
We have become so used to the usual BS, it's chronic.
Normalised pathology, it's nice to know plenty of folks feel sick and tired of these politics, and want a simple, ordinary human with old-fashioned values instead of a cult of personality and a spin-machine to sell it.
As the Nasty Party goes into spasm prior to Chilcote revelations phony Tony is working all the old gears to try and head off the threat looming over him.
Leave or remain, a sideshow compared to what threatens Tory credibility.
I mean, Gove, FFS. May, pleeeease.
Boris has given a preview to you merkins what Chump is about to do to your Grand Old Perverts party.
Again, Ryan, wtf? 'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
If I may hazard a guess, what his followers want (other than the 2 features you mentioned) would be -is- that he be free from the rancorous betrayal of labour values embodied in Blair, Cambell and Mandelson, aka tory-lite.
That gets to precisely my point though. His whole schtick is just "That shit sucks" rather than saying, "You should make me PM, because I'll do x, y and z."
It's great to be against Thatcherism and Blairism n(I think we all agree with that), but what does that mean as a practical matter for the generic Brit on the street? Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
What is needed in a crisis like this is urgent government action to shore up investment, already falling before the vote. Shovel-ready projects should be brought forward, creating jobs and focused on beginning to rebuild those parts of the country currently most deprived - and where the vote to Leave was strongest. As a country, we will get through this crisis, and we will do so when we no longer tolerate a situation in which too many of our people are excluded from even the chance of prosperity.
Jeremy would no doubt agree: "I think the media's attitude towards the Labour Party and our campaign has been horrendous." His shadow chancellor, John McDonnell, has long been associated with the Campaign for Press and Broadcasting Freedom -- as has the Morning Star. The campaign calls for curbs on the power of the handful of super-rich tycoons who control the bulk of the British press. Would a Corbyn government take action to break up media monopolies? "Yes," he says immediately. "We are developing a media policy based on breaking up single ownership of too many sources of information. "And actually promoting co-operative ownership and co-operative access, including local TV and radio stations and newspapers like the Morning Star."
Jeremy would no doubt agree: "I think the media's attitude towards the Labour Party and our campaign has been horrendous."
His shadow chancellor, John McDonnell, has long been associated with the Campaign for Press and Broadcasting Freedom -- as has the Morning Star. The campaign calls for curbs on the power of the handful of super-rich tycoons who control the bulk of the British press.
Would a Corbyn government take action to break up media monopolies? "Yes," he says immediately. "We are developing a media policy based on breaking up single ownership of too many sources of information.
"And actually promoting co-operative ownership and co-operative access, including local TV and radio stations and newspapers like the Morning Star."
Go cuddle up with Gove already.
That apple really did roll far from the tree... 'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
I'm also rather fond of his People's QE. Putting the idea out there that banks get free money and you could to is the most effective attack on the household capacity I can think of on short notice.
But it's all over the blogs and the fightback is happening very quickly. To such an extent that the msm simply aren't seeing it and will be shocked when it fails and unable to explain it.
Which is a shame cos the de-selection of 150-odd MPs in the next couple of years is gonna be fun keep to the Fen Causeway
But it's all over the blogs and the fightback is happening very quickly.
Sadly, a major source of "info" is The Canary, which regard as a hyper, prone to leaping to press on scant info and arriving at the wrong destination. It ain't entirely trustworthy. Which is a shame cos 60% of the posting is very good and grounded, you just can't tell how good it is until some hours/days later keep to the Fen Causeway
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