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On foreign policy, by her own words and by all inside accounts of her time in the Obama administration, she's much more hawkish than Obama. Obama's made what I think are some boneheaded moves with the Arab Spring, but his cautiousness has, I think, helped ensure those boneheaded mistakes haven't resulted in us getting sucked into quagmires.
(He's made some good moves too, of course: Normalizing with Cuba, reaching out to Iran, etc.)
She also seems to be much more comfortable with our traditional role of supporting Israel, babysitting our Arab "allies," and generally screwing around in the Middle East.
Whereas Obama has made it pretty clear that he hates the Israeli leadership (and been perfectly happy to let Bibi slowly turn Israel into a partisan issue), doesn't see any of the Arab regimes as allies (in fact openly jokes about it with regard to the Saudis), and would really rather focus on building alliances with emerging countries in Asia instead of dealing with all the crazy the Mid-East comes with thanks very much.
She's not Bob Rubin in a pantsuit. She's Barack Obama with Madeleine Albright's foreign policy. Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
And I've sort of made my peace with that. I hate it, of course, and my fondest wish is that she's putting on a "toughness" schtick because, not being a complete idiot, she knows misogyny dictates that women have a tendency to be portrayed as weak. And, unfortunately, we're still, at base, a bunch of dumb apes, and "strength" in the midst of a campaign is often bestowed upon s/he who talks the toughest game about sorting out the savages with freedom bombs.
So perhaps she pivots away from the hawkishness when/if she wins. That's the hope anyway. But my inclination is always to take politicians at their word barring strong background evidence to the contrary. They may all be corrupt liars, but presidents do historically move in the direction they promise to move.
Some of the difference between the two is probably generational. They're about 15 years apart, I think, which is massive in a cultural sense. She grew up a middle- to upper-middle-class white woman from a pretty standard suburban family in Illinois during the height of the Cold War. He grew up a middle-class black man raised by an academic mom in Hawaii and Indonesia and came of age as the Soviet Union was rotting.
She always strikes me as a classic Boomer, and he always strikes me as a classic Gen-X'er (even if he's technically from the back end of the Boomers). They can kinda understand each other, but it's like me and my friends sitting at a bar here and chatting with the college kids. We can talk football or something else universally relatable all day, but when you get into politics or music or something, there's a little common ground. Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
Trump fits that stereotype pretty well too. Born into money, he can do more or less as he pleases, say whatever, fail any number of times in business, have no educational qualifications or previous public service accomplishments and hey Presto: He's a leader, ready for the White House. Can you imagine a women with a similar track record get past first base?
Hopefully Hillary has learned that she doesn't have to act like a macho man once in office. No drama Obama could be quite a powerful role model for her. She's also not inheriting a full scale war from him and Isis seems to be on the run. A key test will be how many neo-cons she puts into powerful positions. Obama has pretty much marginalised the worst of them. We'll see. Index of Frank's Diaries
Hmm, Fiorina?
They might have if she'd built a Trump-style empire. Or at least given the impression of same - which is, to be fair, all that Trump has ever done.
It helps him that he's more of an entrepreneur. A really bad one, generally, but one nevertheless. Whereas Fiorina's more the MBA-type, so she doesn't really have the brand that goes along with an empire, however shitty that empire that may be.
I assume she did something at least half-decent to get the HP job while she was at AT&T and (I think?) Lucent. In that sense, kinda like Trump: One decent effort followed by colossal failure everywhere else. Trump was just savvier in turning his real business into a brand. Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
If we and the Iranians can get the stupid Iraqi government to reconcile with the Sunnis, we might be able to get something approaching a functioning state over there.
She's supportive of the nuclear deal with Iran. That's good.
So catastrophic-mistake-making opportunities should hopefully dwindle a good bit. Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
Obama, who tends to be pretty levelheaded and tends to roll his eyes at obvious politicking like this, was reportedly livid. He didn't respond in public but did apparently give her a piece of his mind in private. Axelrod, on the other hand, had no qualms about responding on Twitter.
I'm sure there were situations like that, where she'd advocate a larger response and he'd veto it under the "Don't Do Stupid Shit" doctrine. And I'm sure it did chafe her. Clinton tends to favor sweeping ideological positions in the foreign policy realm that suppose our military and intelligence folks are capable of a lot of social engineering. Obama tends to be skeptical of sweeping ideological positions on anything (he's a liberal, obviously, but doesn't tend to be wedded to methodology), doesn't think large-scale military interventions like Iraq are either necessary or desirable, and prefers calculated risks on an ad hoc basis that leave us with an ability to wind down or ramp up as results dictate.
(His interview with Jeffrey Goldberg was pretty informative on that.)
If she's smart, she'll see that it served him pretty well. It's how he beat her eight years ago, after all. Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
Here is what Queen Victoria wrote in 1870:
... this mad, wicked folly of `Woman's Rights,' with all its attendant horrors, on which her poor feeble sex is bent, forgetting every sense of womanly feeling and propriety. Lady -- ought to get a good whipping. It is a subject which makes the Queen so furious that she cannot contain herself. God created men and women different -- then let them remain each in their own position
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