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Square this: a large majority wants to have full access to the single market. A large majority also wants immigration to be controlled/curbed. It's wishful thinking. And/or they want to inflict damage on the system to punish those who they feel have broken the rules, even if they themselves will be damaged (a phenomenon known from game theory).

Or is it all some weird form of self pity?

Schengen is toast!

by epochepoque on Wed Jan 25th, 2017 at 11:20:45 PM EST
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I think it is a failure to recognise just how much their power base has declined.  They fondly imagine they will be able to negotiate better trade deals with the EU and the rest of the world from outside the EU. They believe everyone else will be falling over themselves to do business with them. They imagine that the EU, without them, will collapse. They believe Scotland and N. Ireland will continue to follow them wherever they go.  That Trump and Putin will treat them as equals. That British ingenuity and talent will conquer the word.

I have no doubt they will have some successes, but no more and probably less than they could have had within the EU.  I also think that Brexit will exacerbate class divisions within England to the point where they won't even end up being a United England.  I don't wish them misery, but I think Brexit will be an epic fail and get worse with time.  I also can't think of a way in which they could reverse that decline.  All in all, a pretty sad demise.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Wed Jan 25th, 2017 at 11:39:26 PM EST
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To expect logic on a mass level is illogical.
by rifek on Wed Jan 25th, 2017 at 11:51:58 PM EST
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Yes, and a plea for attention and a cry for help, all at once.

Once the supposed financial wizardry of the City is fully revealed as the racket that it is, (as if rigging Libor weren't enough of a red flag) then the game is pretty much up for the vaunted prowess of overpaid spivs shovelling dirty money into places where it shouldn't belong.

Teresa May is like some old actress pretending the world hasn't moved on from her halcyon youth, delusionally foisting herself on the world stage.

A sad bluff that fools few, I suspect.

(Confirming the British propensity for futile tenacity to the wrong cause even when everyone else has seen the writing on the wall for years.)

If it rubs out the Tories, maybe Brexit will be worth it.

It's their bed, even if we all have to lie in it.

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Jan 26th, 2017 at 02:44:32 AM EST
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