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Good grief Frank, take a chill pill. I think the Irish Times is getting a bit hysterical.

It's all very well for IT to warn that a former Cabinet Minister and journalist are screaming for Hammond to be tried for treason, but when it's revealed that the people involved are Nadine Dorries (MP-Batshit cray-zee) and Nigel Lawson, ex-Chancellor, climate change denier and long term resident in the South of France, we're not exactly talking about mainstream opinion.

Yes, you're right to say that there is no majority in the Commons for "No deal" and May couldn't bring that to the Commons for a vote because she'd lose. And that would triger an election, at which point all bets would be off cos the negotiations would have to start again with a Labour govt that might just say "fuck it, the UK can't afford to leave".

And it's noticeable that the rabid leavers break down into 2 camps;-
1) wealthy tories who know that, come hell and high water, they'll be alright Jack, so pull the ladder up.

2)the left behind, the ones vividly described Giles Fraser.

Blakenall Heath seethed with the anger of the unheard. And that anger found its way into my bones. It wasn't just about the poverty. It was deeper than that. As the months went by, I began to get some sense of what it felt like when nobody listened to or cared in the slightest about what you said. It felt like no one gave a shit. Every now and again the place would show up on some list of crap towns for posh people to snigger at. Other than that, you weren't noticed.
A remain campaigner told me about a doorstep encounter he had on a bombsite of a council estate in the Midlands. "You have a lot to lose financially if we leave the EU," he explained, rationally.

"Oh, yes," she gestured to her run-down surroundings, sarcastically. "I could lose all of this?"

Of course, we should remember that he's a keen brexiter, so he's going to lean that way. Nevertheless, what he paints is picture of why Labour are caught a dilemma with their EU sypathies. They can't really afford to offend these people who would otherwise vote tory for brexit. I would still contend there are the people who are mostly the left behind of the neoliberal economic catastrophe of the last 40 years, that a Corbyn govt will hopefully roll back.

But he may have to betray them first and they may never forgive him for saving them.

But he cannot get elected unless it is with at least the acceptance of people above.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Oct 16th, 2017 at 11:59:54 AM EST

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