Open Thread 23 - 29 Oct | 54 comments (54 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

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I came across Inside Hillary Clinton's Secret Takeover of the DNC and it's interesting. Donna Brazile is promoting a book about the inside game at DNC.

"When I got back from a vacation in Martha's Vineyard, I at last found the document that described it all: the Joint Fund-Raising Agreement between the DNC, the Hillary Victory Fund, and Hillary for America.

The agreement--signed by Amy Dacey, the former CEO of the DNC, and Robby Mook with a copy to Marc Elias--specified that in exchange for raising money and investing in the DNC, Hillary would control the party's finances, strategy, and all the money raised. Her campaign had the right of refusal of who would be the party communications director, and it would make final decisions on all the other staff. The DNC also was required to consult with the campaign about all other staffing, budgeting, data, analytics, and mailings."

Essentially, the Clinton campaign bought the party in August 2015.

by fjallstrom on Thu Nov 2nd, 2017 at 09:20:41 PM EST

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Isn't this the woman behind the leak of the debate questions to Clinton? If she is writing things like this, could it be that the Democrats are moving to supporting Sanders for 2020 (who else have they got)?

by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Fri Nov 3rd, 2017 at 07:27:29 AM EST
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I hope Sanders doesn't stand, even tho I support his politics. His candidacy was damaged by genuine complaints from black people that they were largely ignored by him until they embarrassed him, and even then their policy involvement was largely totemic.

So, it would be far better to have a new bernie like candidate who learns the lessons of his campaign.

imo

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Nov 3rd, 2017 at 07:54:34 AM EST
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For what it is worth, he is now popular among black respondents in popularity polls and he should have time to work on his messaging. And prepare the tax returns (unless they were hiding something really damaging).

He is old though, and needs to find someone to pass the torch to anyway. Question is if they have someone to pass the torch to.

by fjallstrom on Fri Nov 3rd, 2017 at 10:37:02 AM EST
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His candidacy was damaged by genuine complaints from black people

No.
Do. Not. Go. There.

Return to "Bernie Bro" revolt against the DNC in several state caucuses and subsequent litigation of fraud against the DNC.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Nov 3rd, 2017 at 11:09:45 AM EST
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Keeping the story straight (none / 0)

Either all black people supported Hillary Clinton or all black people supported Bernie Sanders. Which is it this week?

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Nov 3rd, 2017 at 11:15:27 AM EST
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o, I know! (none / 0)

Black people did not go to the polls to support Bernie Sanders!

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Nov 3rd, 2017 at 11:17:06 AM EST
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Rant fearuting Brazile

Welding et al. v. DNC Services Corp., d/b/a final order Aug 2017

Lawsuit ost-mortem

archived: Welding et al. v. DNC Services Corp., d/b/a [!] Democratic National Committe complaint May 2017

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Nov 3rd, 2017 at 01:42:51 PM EST
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Yes it is her.

I think at the least, she is positioning herself for a future where the Sanders wing of the party holds significant power. Which looks a bit odd, considering the purge of the DNC, but I think things are happening on the state level.

by fjallstrom on Fri Nov 3rd, 2017 at 10:28:50 AM EST
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I for one assume her motive is simply money, proceeds of book sales. I'd bet she started writing day after the wikileaks dump, when DNC abandoned her "loyalty." Some call that "walk-away money."

Vindication acceptable to "Bernie Bro" insurgents is too far a stretch for her future employment. She's over 30 and not even blond. Let's be real.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Nov 3rd, 2017 at 11:24:30 AM EST
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Does anybody actually buy these books? Do they then read them? Does anybody here know anybody who knows anybody who does? Here is Current Affairs (not online) on What Happened

Reader, we can't do it. We were begged. "But it is an extremely important book," they said. "Regardless of what you think, when a major party candidate gives their candid perspective on an important election, it is worth at least writing a review." And we can't argue with them. They are right. Nevertheless: it is impossible. We cannot review Hillary Clinton's What Hap- pened, because we would have to read Hillary Clinton's What Happened, and this is simply impossible.

by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Fri Nov 3rd, 2017 at 11:38:40 AM EST
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A cursory search for Clinton sales finds the number 300,000 sales repeated. So I guess it sold well. Brazile's book is on the Amazon bestseller list (number nine, right now) so I guess it is selling well.

Unless those numbers are as fake as the numbers of Facebook users, which is so very possible.

by fjallstrom on Fri Nov 3rd, 2017 at 12:24:12 PM EST
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In a merica, people buy books, celebrity biographies and DIY, but they don't read them.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Nov 3rd, 2017 at 01:37:17 PM EST
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When I worked for BBC News, I'd often go into the Newsnight office (nightly deep dive into issues prog) and sift through their shelves of unread political books (free to a good home - please/beg). Some genuinely interesting but an awful load of clunkers. I'd have left Hillary's book on the shelf

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Nov 3rd, 2017 at 01:57:12 PM EST
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