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I remember Frank Biancheri having to defend against the idea of the EU being a socialist super-state to an American radio a few years before he died. The portrait of the EU as an arch-enemy has been in the making for long and is actually extraneous to Trump. It was only a matter of time before a conservative leader would take it up.

This is one the messages of this article: this sentiment against Europe will not go away with Trump. The new president may be no more than a symptom of this repositioning of the American right.

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by Luis de Sousa (luis[dot]a[dot]de[dot]sousa[at]gmail[dot]com) on Fri Feb 3rd, 2017 at 08:12:27 PM EST
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Luis, I strongly suspect that you are correct about Trump and Putin, but I also would like more evidence than just my own surmise.

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by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Feb 4th, 2017 at 07:17:18 AM EST
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This article is not about Trump or Putin in particular. The interview Malloch gave speaks for itself, I do not see need for further "evidence".

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by Luis de Sousa (luis[dot]a[dot]de[dot]sousa[at]gmail[dot]com) on Sat Feb 4th, 2017 at 05:08:42 PM EST
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The only people who have regarded a unified Europe as an enemy of the US have been the far right fringe. Mainstream conservatives and progressives alike in the US have actively supported the EU's development, even if they might disagree with various EU policies, just as Europeans themselves do, and support for the EU and its predecessors have been an integral part of US foreign policy in a bipartisan way since the Marshall Plan.

My argument is that just because that far right fringe has accidentally ended up in power in the US does not mean that there is suddenly any credibility to any larger argument of any geopolitical structural explanations to any EU-US.  A much better geopolitical explanation given the historical evidence is that the EU served US interests when the US was in charge of governing the planet.  Rather, now that Trump has won power on a campaign premised on rejecting US responsibility for maintaining the institutions of globalization, the mutual interests of Americans and Europeans in developing a strong EU may have changed.

by santiago on Mon Feb 6th, 2017 at 12:36:04 AM EST
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The EU is the only entity on the planet that has the power to stand up to US corporations.

If you really think the far right "accidentally" ended up in power I'm sure we can find a bridge for you to buy.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Feb 6th, 2017 at 10:45:44 AM EST
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And part of the problem for the Billionaire class is that the EU is so complex you can't just lift the phone to your bought politician to get stuff done.  Apple tried that with the Irish Government but it is unclear how far that will get them.  In the meantime the publicity isn't good and any potential interest bill is piling up although they have now, apparently, put the €13 Billion in escrow...to limit further damage. Of course Apple is just the tip of the iceberg and no one seems to know just how much dough is lying under that piece of shit - the non resident Company conduit for exiting profits tax free out of the EU.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon Feb 6th, 2017 at 03:34:29 PM EST
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Lobbying in the EU is far less difficult than you seem to be implying, and US corporations especially enjoy their access to policymakers in the EU, perhaps because of its bureaucratic nature with a degree of separation between popular political contests, which  frequently throws wrenches into things in the US.

The classic academic paper demonstrating how corporations easily take over policymaking in the EU, even when other groups such as NGO's are provided explicit institutional access alongside such corporations, is "Leading the Dance: Power and Political Resources of Business Lobbyists," by Cornelia Woll (2007).

In the last US election, the corporate class all backed Clinton, overwhelmingly, financially and otherwise, outspending Trump by an order of magnitude. Trump may be friendly to some kinds of business in some ways, but is mostly an unwelcome wildcard as far as the vast majority of billionaire class's lobbyists are concerned.

Looked at through economic theory, trade policies which lead to large, regulatory-homogenized markets is in the best interests of large corporations because it increases the returns to scale, an implication of the work by economics Nobel laureate Paul Krugman. That has been the global policy trajectory for decades under US global leadership. Now that train has been thrown off the tracks by Trump.  

by santiago on Mon Feb 6th, 2017 at 06:37:12 PM EST
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Yes, corporate lobbying is a large scale industry in Brussels, but there is a world of difference between lobbyists managing to have a meeting with a civil servant drawing up some policy (and who is generally aware of their interests) and actually putting the head honchos in Goldman Sachs and Dewey, Cheatham & Howe in charge...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon Feb 6th, 2017 at 07:36:29 PM EST
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Reference a study performed before the Lisbon treaty on this particular matter is not very wise.

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by Luis de Sousa (luis[dot]a[dot]de[dot]sousa[at]gmail[dot]com) on Wed Feb 8th, 2017 at 07:13:36 AM EST
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