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Of course, a lot of people are still claiming they'd never vote for labour while Corbyn is running the party, but they're probably the same people who claimed that Ed Miliband was too clueless to claim their vote either.
But this is really the brexit election. I imagine that nearly every "leave" voter who votes (a lower number than for referendum) will cast their vote for the conservatives. It's just not possible to really examine their motivations because taboid conditioning is now so reinforced by the BBC that it has more or less overtaken any rational analysis of policy positions.
I'm not even trying to discuss politics with some of my FB peeps, it's just not worth it. Theyre so full of tabloid nonsense that there's almost no point of entry into the conversation anymore. It has taken me 2 years to find a way to find shared values and discuss politics with my sister. But however much I manage to persuade her that many of the things she presumes to be true are far from being so, she remains proud of her leave vote and will cast her vote for the tories as usual.
who knows what's in the tory manifesto? Does anyone know what Theresa May thinks about anything? Nbody, but the tabloids reassure everybody that she's strong and stable so people will cast their vote accordingly.
In some ways, given the inevitability of brexit, this may well be a good election to lose. Cos everything is gonna get very bad in the next 5 years whoever is in power, better that the tories catch the blame
keep to the Fen Causeway
This is because the political needs of the EU members - to maintain solidarity and keep their own hard right at bay trumps any concerns they might have of the economic damage a hard Brexit might do the EU.
The UK simply doesn't have many cards to play - goods and services that cannot be sourced elsewhere - or even stuff like financial services where the EU really needs to develop its own capabilities if it wants to be taken seriously as a world economic power.
It also seems inconceivable that the EU would allow Euro clearing operations to remain in the UK or allow UK based banks and funds carry out the majority of EU financial operations. The same goes for the aerospace, armaments and IT industries.
So Brexit represents a once off opportunity to broaden the base of EU economies at the expense of the UK, and there isn't a huge amount any UK negotiating team can do about it. The big problem is that the UK doesn't even seem to see this coming...
Index of Frank's Diaries
who knows what's in the tory manifesto?
I do. The same as the U.S. Republican manifesto. Not the religious crap ... that's the shit they feed the impoverished idiots. They want to slowly kill off the lower 99.999 ...% because the Earth's resources are running out. There's a war on ... not country vs. country but ultrarich vs. the rest, in every country. Too bad the general population won't figure this out till it's too late.
My allegiance to the human species ends at the California border. I love that statement ... glad I invented it.
They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
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