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Thanks for the summary. I missed most of the details early and didn't trust my impressions too much. From your Metafilter link:
On 11 August 2017, alt-right protesters surrounded counter-demonstrators standing in a ring around the Thomas Jefferson statue at UVA in Charlottesville, VA. This was a preamble to the main Unite the Right rally, taking place today. ACLU Virginia is present and posting updates via Twitter.

That confirms my impression that the whole thing started with the torchlight parade at UVa with the chants. I missed that protestors had been surrounded by the marchers and their associates by the statue. That was not well elucidated on PBS News over the weekend.

Later the article indicates that the UVA had sent an email that approved the rally and that they have been criticized for so doing. The NYT has a piece up on the role of the ACLU and the criticism it has taken. I do like the response of the University of Texas official who said of open carry advocates that, should they come onto campus to hold a demonstration they would be arrested as they are not a part of the University Community. That contrasts very favorable with the UVa actions and is actually a very sensible position. The commenter rightly notes that Universities should have plans to deal with such situations - especially with those not done by their students.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Aug 17th, 2017 at 08:38:26 PM EST
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I've no idea why you fixate on UVA responsibility for UNITTE THE RIGHT rally permit, when I've told you that the city issued the permit, opening the door to 6,000 radicals.

I've spent some time in Ch'ville, because one of my college roommates stettled there. I visited. I would not. It's a bullshit small town, notwithstanding Tho. Jefferson's legacy of bullshit federal-democratic central government in the canon of US American democratic ideals. Which left plenty room for his despotic competition with rivals and aristotlian philosophy of agrarian "good life" in executive offices.

I read AP GOVERNENT. Wilson and Diulio (13th Ed) with my daughter. Because empirical "political science".

Before this, my college roommate was appalled that I wandered one dawn to photograph the agrarian landscape ringing Ch'ville and came home alive.

Richmond was the capitol of the confederacy, let's not forget. Virginians haven't to this day. But DNC's PR apparatus in recent years would like to cast the pop "liberal", which no one, I promise you, in the DMV believes, regardless of their  GSE contractor employment status. Only comparative"NoVA. The state is that red, despite DNC propaganda supporting Fed candidates. Swanson agrees.

2. The racists who have begun coming to Charlottesville to campaign for governor, garner attention, threaten violence, engage in violence, and commit murder are almost all from outside Charlottesville, and extremely unwelcome here. Charlottesville is a slightly left-of-center, Democratic Party area. Most people don't rally for good causes or against bad ones. Most people don't want the Lee statue taken down. (Or at least they didn't until it became a gathering point for neo-Confederates.) Most people want other memorials added to public space to diversify. And most people don't want white supremacists coming to town with their hatred and their violence.

UVA venue for UNITE THE RITE opposition around a flag was a sideshow of a profound cultural dissemblanc , causa belli. What you might like to do is verify anarchy.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Thu Aug 17th, 2017 at 09:50:53 PM EST
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I was just trying to sort out how this began - at UVa with that grotesque parade with torches. And I know that there must have been planning on the part of the Unite the Right people. IMO the University should have invoked the same principle as cited by UT admins and just have  moved to arrest them for demonstrating on the campus when they were not part of the university community.

And I am well aware that Cash's description of the locals in

    The Mind of the South
still applies, especially to those drawn to Unite the Right. It does seem that the portion of southerners who fit that description is significantly smaller these days, but that fact only serves to make those who remain more fervid in their defense of those views.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Fri Aug 18th, 2017 at 01:45:43 AM EST
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The University of Virginia (U.Va. or UVA), frequently referred to simply as Virginia, is a public research university and the flagship for the Commonwealth of Virginia.

Public institutional status (tax funded income, in whole or in part) differentiates private establishments in education AND commercial enterprise. The business of very public funded enterprise in the USA is subject to de minimis compliance tests with  US constitutional or federal, not state, enforcement including but not limited to 1st Amd civil rights.

My clever neandertal and denisovan allele-bearing cousins have fixated on these public criteria to identify test case petitions and litigate alleged unconstitutional race-factor discrimination ("preference", "bias") by admissions officers' compliance with EEOC statute and agency regulation. Because 1st Amd. clause, case law, "freedom of association" may lawfully permit someone to discriminate application of civil rights under supreme law of the land, especially 14th and 15th Amd.

U.S. digital rights group slams tech firms for barring neo-Nazis

Today, few "civil rights" advocates are willing or able to define any limit to free speech, much less imperative speech inciting or commanding actual violence.

That's how fucked up US "society" is, because founding vaters never intended unity.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Aug 18th, 2017 at 10:12:27 AM EST
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