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by Bjinse on Mon Aug 14th, 2017 at 06:54:48 PM EST
in Morocco
Melilla: Spanish enclave in Morocco offers an exit route to Europe
The majority of applicants come from war zones in Iraq and Syria, getting to Morocco after a long trip across the continent, but in recent months there has been a surge in Moroccan applicants from Alhucemas, the Moroccan city at the epicenter of upheavals in the Rif region, about 100km from Melilla.

Morocco demands `clear signal' from EU on future relations

The department Ajanuch heads on Tuesday (7 February) issued a statement in which it warned of the "serious consequences" that will arise from "obstacles" the EU puts in the way of the agricultural agreement signed in 2012. The agreement was partly annulled by a court in December 2015, for including Western Sahara, but the European Court of Justice overturned the ruling last December.

Beyond the preamble to the judgement, which distinguished between Morocco and Western Sahara, "there is now a very clear verdict initiating the agreement". Morocco will now "not accept others trying to apply their own interpretations. [...] The EU's attitude is confusing," the minister added.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Wed Aug 16th, 2017 at 02:38:09 PM EST
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NYC to remove Marshall Pétain plaque:

by Bernard (bernard) on Thu Aug 17th, 2017 at 06:33:13 PM EST
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Thank you for this information. I had not wondered until reading this post, How many travel guides, Fodor's for example, feature Marshall Pétain landmarks across Europe?

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Fri Aug 18th, 2017 at 10:01:51 PM EST
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There are no "Pétain landmarks" per se anywhere in Europe. We can probably find references to him on the monuments dedicated to the battle of Verdun in 1916, where he was the main military leader on the French side. BTW, it was because of his role during WW I that he was invited to NYC in 1931, and the plaque in question was put there on that occasion - a good nine years before Vichy. Note that most monuments to WW I & II do feature anonymous soldiers rather than generals (I was thinking of this).

Vichy is of course one of the places where one might find references to Pétain: he lived there during four years as the head of the infamous collaborationist "Etat francais" regime (the last statue of Pétain was reportedly removed from the Vichy streets only 3 years ago). Lastly, there may be some mention of him at the Fort de Pierre-Levée citadel on the Île d'Yeu, where he was imprisoned following his trial and died in 1951.

by Bernard (bernard) on Sat Aug 19th, 2017 at 06:44:09 PM EST
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While the plaque is due to his 1931 visit, I think the plaque itself is quite recent, and has been a point of controversy from the start. The same applies to the one honouring the Shah of Iran, but there the objections come from Muslims, who object to people walking over the name of the Prophet.

Incidentally, France renamed the last street named after Pétain a few years. The same des not apply to Petain (sic) Ave in Milltown NJ.

by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Sat Aug 19th, 2017 at 08:03:05 PM EST
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Chinese state media made a racist video about India and is censoring its critics - WaPo
A state-run Chinese media agency faces growing backlash over its propaganda video demeaning India's Sikh community, the latest development in what's fast becoming a volatile border dispute between the two nuclear powers.

Titled "7 Sins of India," the video features a Chinese actor, dressed in a turban and phony beard, reciting monosyllabic lines in English but in a manner Indians "are perceived to speak," as the Hindustan Times characterized it.

Critics in India, China and elsewhere have condemned the video as flagrantly racist.

The three-minute clip was published Wednesday on several verified social media channels operated by Xinhua News, an English-language outlet headquartered in Beijing and overseen by China's State Council. It's available internationally on Facebook, Twitter and YouTube. In China, however, another English-language news site appears to have been censored after criticizing the video.

by Bernard (bernard) on Thu Aug 17th, 2017 at 07:08:11 PM EST
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Gee. I thought  that organization was BEZOS controlled. Am I to understand, BEZOS DICTATED this story to CIA operatives who publish WaPoo "reporting"? That can't be good for US America, can it?

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Thu Aug 17th, 2017 at 08:27:19 PM EST
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by Bernard (bernard) on Fri Aug 18th, 2017 at 07:39:54 AM EST
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Express: O'Leary
"They genuinely seem to think there is going to be a red, white and blue Brexit - when you ask them how the hell they are going to get there, they don't have a clue.

"One of their ministers suggested the way of replacing open skies between the UK and Europe is an open skies agreement with Pakistan.

"There will be a lot of Pakistanis wanting to travel to the UK, but I'm not quite sure those Brits, who like to holiday in Spain, Portugal and Greece fancy Karachi for their summer holidays."

by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Thu Aug 17th, 2017 at 07:40:46 PM EST
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As I wrote several times, a more frugal life ahead for many Britons post Brexit.
by Bernard (bernard) on Thu Aug 17th, 2017 at 08:01:34 PM EST
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A few random excerpts from the Harper transcript
he court:  Juror Number 47, please come up.

juror no. 47: He's the most hated man in America. In my opinion, he equates with Bernie Madoff with the drugs for pregnant women going from $15 to $750. My parents are in their eighties. They're struggling to pay for their medication. My mother was telling me yesterday how my father's cancer drug is $9,000 a month.

the court: The case is going to come before you on evidence that you must consider fairly and with an open mind.

juror no. 47: I would find that difficult.

the court: And that's based on your parents' experience with medication?

juror no. 47: It's based on people working very hard for their money. He defrauded his company and his investors, and that's not right.

the court: Ma'am, we're going to excuse you


juror no. 52: When I walked in here today I looked at him, and in my head, that's a snake -- not knowing who he was. I just walked in and looked right at him and that's a snake.

brafman: So much for the presumption of innocence.

the court: We will excuse Juror Number 52.


The court: Juror Number 10, please come forward.

juror no. 10: The only thing I'd be impartial about is what prison this guy goes to.

the court: Okay. We will excuse you.


juror no. 59: Your Honor, totally he is guilty and in no way can I let him slide out of anything because --

the court: Okay. Is that your attitude toward anyone charged with a crime who has not been proven guilty?

juror no. 59: It's my attitude toward his entire demeanor, what he has done to people.

the court: All right. We are going to excuse you, sir.

juror no. 59: And he disrespected the Wu-Tang Clan.

by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Thu Aug 17th, 2017 at 08:17:10 PM EST
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This item appeared in a Metafilter thread. I noted with interest, commenters were uncertain that the transcript of court proceedings published Harper's magazine were accurate representations of verbal com, because.

Doubt implies the general population has no fucking clue what skill stenography entails, every court and every atty administering a deposition records communications, that court proceedings are published, that one may obtain published US court proceeding (@PACER).

Rather than, say, interpret MSM interpretation of court proceedings.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Thu Aug 17th, 2017 at 08:49:29 PM EST
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Damn, I'd just lie just so I can have a chance on the death sentence. "No, never heard of him"

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Aug 24th, 2017 at 02:11:49 PM EST
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Summary of the week ending 19 Aug in one impolitic headline.
Rash of Vehicular Homicides and Redecorating

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Sat Aug 19th, 2017 at 01:16:45 PM EST
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by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Aug 21st, 2017 at 02:23:28 PM EST
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How much of the Alt-Right was born in LA County?

How Steve Bannon became the face of a political movement with roots in Los Angeles

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Aug 21st, 2017 at 02:14:22 PM EST
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Jerusalem Post
Anyone who votes in party primaries before a general election automatically would be counted as voting for that party in a general election, according to a bill submitted Monday by Likud MK Yoav Kisch.

Kisch's bill is intended to target the so-called "New Likudniks," a group of centrists who want the party to become less extreme and return to the values they say existed when Likud was led by Menachem Begin and are no longer prevalent in the party.

by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Sat Aug 26th, 2017 at 07:48:24 PM EST
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Am I the only one who finds it a bit incongruent to see "less extreme" and "more like Menachem Begin" in the same sentence?

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sun Aug 27th, 2017 at 06:42:37 AM EST
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Menachem Begin did consistently object to Ben-Gurion's apartheid policies before 1966. And here, just in time for you, is Uri Avnery's latest column, "Kaya, the royal Dog ".
YEARS AGO, a leading French journalist came to me during an Israeli election campaign. I directed him to an election rally of Menachem Begin's.

When he came back he was bewildered. "I don't understand it," he exclaimed. "When he was talking about the Arabs, he sounded like a rabid fascist. When he was talking about social affairs, he sounded like a moderate liberal. How can this fit together?"

"Begin is not a great thinker," I explained to him. "All the ideology of the Likud goes back to Vladimir Jabotinsky."

Vladimir (or Ze'ev) Jabotinsky was the founder of the "revisionist" party, the parent of the Herut Party, which was the parent of the present-day Likud. He was born in 1880 in Odessa in the Ukraine. When he was young man he was sent as a journalist to Italy, a country that had attained its freedom not so long before.

The Italian liberation movement was an unusual mixture of extreme patriotism and liberal social ideas. This fixed the young Jabotinsky's political outlook for life.

by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Sun Aug 27th, 2017 at 06:52:51 AM EST
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Israeli politics has been moving steadily to the right ever since Golda Meir.  What was extreme then is liberal now.

Index of Frank's Diaries
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Sun Aug 27th, 2017 at 08:57:40 AM EST
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and yet I remember reading recently about a (rather obscure) jewish poet who realised after participating in one particularly bloody episode in 1948 that Israel was embrked on a project of "clearances" not dissimilar to those practised by previous Jewish oppressors.

He left Israel soon after.

sadly his name escapes me entirely, but he was never famous.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Aug 27th, 2017 at 03:07:39 PM EST
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Guardian - Hadley Freeman - My great uncle was alienated in postwar France. Now Americans know how he felt

I wish I'd had longer to get to know Alex, but I'm glad he is not alive now to see how the realisation of his dreams has betrayed its roots. Last week, Israel's communications minister, Ayoub Kara, who calls Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu a "close friend", told the Jerusalem Post that staying on the right side of President Trump was more important than condemning the neo-Nazis marching in Charlottesville, Virginia. In other words, for Israel, Trump trumps Nazis, because that's where we are in 2017.

"Due to terrific relations with the US, we need to put the declarations about the Nazis in the proper proportion," Kara told the Post. "We need to condemn antisemitism and any trace of Nazism... but Trump is the best US leader Israel has ever had... and we must not accept anyone harming him."

So Israel will do what it can to stop the spread of Nazism, except criticise a man who insisted there were some "very fine people" marching with neo-Nazis earlier this month. Whoa, don't strain a muscle, Israel, you're doing some pretty extreme backwards bends there!

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Aug 27th, 2017 at 03:10:48 PM EST
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The Lebanese Armed Forces have been trained and equipped by numerous Western countries, but mainly the United States and the United Kingdom. On the first day of the Fajr al-Joroud offensive, Lebanese Armed Forces spokesman Ali Qanso pronounced, "The Lebanese army is not coordinating with Hezbollah and the Syrian army, either directly or indirectly." That said, images and sources on the ground suggest a different reality, indicating close coordination between the Lebanese Armed Forces, Hezbollah and the Syrian army. This led to mockery on social media and the posting of pictures of Hezbollah fighters and Lebanese army soldiers side by side in the offensive accompanied by a hashtag in Arabic that loosely translates, "Oh what a coincidence!" Meanwhile, British and US officials have both confirmed their forces' active presence among the Lebanese Armed Forces in the previous and ongoing border operations, resulting in an incredibly awkward reality on the ground.


The United States and the United Kingdom cannot be seen as having any association, even indirect, with Hezbollah and the Syrian army, essentially forcing all parties concerned to participate in what can only be described as an international charade for the sake of plausible deniability. According to the source close to Hezbollah and the Lebanese Armed Forces, "US Central Command called the Lebanese army chief and asked him to deny any cooperation, telling him that while they are aware of cooperation, it has to be denied publicly."

by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Mon Aug 28th, 2017 at 02:20:32 PM EST
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keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Aug 28th, 2017 at 04:39:06 PM EST
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And yet this kind of stuff works in keeping stuff out of the general narrative. Even if reported, the onus is always on us as individuals to remember it and bring it up, because the papers that reported it will put it down the memory hole.

Like the endless loop of "stuff happening in Syria" -> "US considers sending arms" while they were sending arms the whole time (and according to recent reports paying the rebels salaries). And still people think that Obama kept out of Syria.

Though that loop appears to be coming to an end what with Assad and the Kurds winning the war against IS (and hopefully continuing peace with each other). Remains to be seen what becomes of the Turkish occupied territories and the last non-IS rebel pockets in the west.

by fjallstrom on Tue Aug 29th, 2017 at 12:28:36 PM EST
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