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by Bjinse on Mon Sep 11th, 2017 at 08:10:39 PM EST
Clinton's book
Clinton was hammered by both Sanders and Trump over her paid speeches to Wall Street. She admits these were a "mistake", explaining: "Just because many former government officials have been paid large fees to give speeches, I shouldn't have assumed it was okay for me to do it.
Sure it's OK. Obama did it too. That's why she's remained a "former" government official, like Obama.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Tue Sep 12th, 2017 at 07:46:50 AM EST
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{s i g h}

Yea, but Obama was running against John McCain and Mitt Romney ferchrissakes. Those guys were the Establishment candidates against Obama, who was just trying to run it better.

Trump was playing the anti-Establisment candidate cos the elite have never done any good for the working men. Yes, of course it was ridiculous, but as an outsider non-politician salesman-on-TV hecould make it stick.

So, Hillary went out of her way to be the Establisment candidate in campaign where the Establishment were seen to be failing the American people.

She could speak to and for Wall St anytime she likes and nobody will fault her for it, but not then, not when being the Establishment candidate is the last thing you want to be.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Sep 12th, 2017 at 02:07:21 PM EST
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I wasn't talking about his campaign. He waited until he was no longer president before cashing in for his services to Wall Street. Clinton didn't. Giving secret talks to Wall Street for huge amounts of money is something that should obviously have been a bad idea.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Tue Sep 12th, 2017 at 02:12:11 PM EST
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Inside Obama's bank CEOs meeting 9 April 2009

"My administration," the president added, "is the only thing between you and the pitchforks."


Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Tue Sep 12th, 2017 at 02:47:21 PM EST
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Very little here that wasn't to be expected from anyone who knows Hillary the person - and yet insightful to see the arrogance on display.

by Bjinse on Tue Sep 12th, 2017 at 08:12:13 PM EST
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yea, it's quite damning, isn't it?

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Sep 12th, 2017 at 09:10:13 PM EST
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And she WILL be back. The Clintons, the Bushes, The Trumps ... what more evidence do you need of a failed species.

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Tue Sep 12th, 2017 at 10:32:27 PM EST
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Hillary is always the smartest person in the room, just ask her.  Or her fawning minions.
by rifek on Tue Sep 12th, 2017 at 11:59:06 PM EST
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Guardian - Thomas Frank - Hillary Clinton's book has a clear message: Don't blame me

How do you lose the presidency to a man like Donald Trump? He was the most unpopular presidential candidate of all time, compounding blunder with blunder and heaping gaffe upon gaffe. Keeping him from the Oval Office should have been the single-minded mission of the Democratic party. And it should have been easy for them.

Instead they lost, and now their 2016 candidate Hillary Clinton comes before us to account for this monumental failure, to tell us What Happened. Unfortunately, her new book is less an effort to explain than it is to explain away.

No real blame ever settles anywhere near Clinton's person. And while she wrestles gamely with the larger historical question of why the party of the people has withered as inequality grows, she never offers a satisfying answer. Instead, most of the blame is directed outward, at familiar suspects like James Comey, the Russians and the media.

Still, by exercising a little discernment, readers can find clues to the mystery of 2016 here and there among the clouds of blame-evasion and positive thinking.



keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Sep 13th, 2017 at 12:40:04 PM EST
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Jacobin
Clinton is also annoyed now that Sanders supposedly created Trump's attacks against her. But this is not only an accusation one can level against any primary opponent, but it's also one that particularly applies to her '08 campaign. Clinton spent that campaign attacking Obama as inexperienced and incapable of protecting Americans' security, a line John McCain and other Republicans would later take. In March, she actually suggested to reporters that McCain -- by then the GOP nominee -- was better qualified to be president than Obama, explaining that he would bring "his lifetime of experience" to the post while Obama would "put forth a speech he made in 2002."

Say what you will about Sanders's criticisms of Clinton, but even at the campaign's most acrimonious, I don't recall him ever suggesting Trump would be a better president than her.

by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Wed Sep 13th, 2017 at 02:03:42 PM EST
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I see, Mr Frank has quickly tacked into the curious wind of change.
YOU'RE FIRED: retracted story on Russian ties June 2017

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Wed Sep 13th, 2017 at 02:10:50 PM EST
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I think that is another Thomas Frank.
by fjallstrom on Wed Sep 13th, 2017 at 04:14:11 PM EST
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So it is! Only one Thomas Frank is a Pulitzer prize laureate. Only one Thomas Frank wrote What's the Matter with Kansas.

For other people named Thomas Frank, see Thomas Frank (disambiguation)


Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Wed Sep 13th, 2017 at 05:50:40 PM EST
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Hero leaders take any responsibility they can. Hillary ain't that.
by das monde on Thu Sep 14th, 2017 at 02:00:53 AM EST
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Just came across this, from May - this take from Nate Silver seems appropriate to tip. Silver also does what media largely appear to have shunned to do: take responsibility for their own role (but in my experience, people working in media just aren't wired that way...)

The Comey Letter Probably Cost Clinton The Election

So you could postulate that the Comey letter had only about a 1-point impact. Perhaps Clinton's lead would have been whittled down to around 4.5 points anyway by Election Day because of mean-reversion. And she led in the final polls by about 3.5 points. Yes, she also underperformed her final polls on Election Day, but that could reflect pollster error or undecideds breaking against her for other reasons, this case would say -- there was no particular reason to attribute it to Comey.

Nonetheless, Clinton lost Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin by less than 1 percentage point, and those states were enough to cost her the election. She lost Florida by just slightly more than 1 point. If the Comey letter had a net impact of only a point or so, we'd have been in recount territory in several of these states -- but Clinton would probably have come out ahead. I call this the "Little Comey" case -- sure, the Comey letter mattered, but only because the election was so close.

(...)

The Comey letter wasn't necessarily the most important factor in Clinton's defeat, although it's probably the one we can be most certain about. To explain the distinction, consider Clinton's decision to run a highly negative campaign that focused on branding Trump as an unacceptable choice. One can imagine this being a huge, election-losing mistake: Trump's negatives didn't need any reinforcing, whereas Clinton should have used her resources to improve her own image. But one could also argue that Clinton's strategy worked, up to a point: Trump was exceptionally unpopular and needed a lot of things to break his way to win the election despite that. The range of possible impacts from this strategic choice is wide; perhaps it cost Clinton several percentage points, or perhaps it helped her instead. The range from the Comey letter is narrower, by contrast, and easier to measure. It was a discrete event that came late in the campaign and had a direct effect on the polls.

(...)

If I were advising a future candidate on what to learn from 2016, I'd tell him or her to mostly forget about the Comey letter and focus on the factors that were within the control of Clinton and Trump. That's not my purpose here. Instead, it's to get at the truth -- to figure out the real story of the election. The real story is that the Comey letter had a fairly large and measurable impact, probably enough to cost Clinton the election. It wasn't the only thing that mattered, and it might not have been the most important. But the media is still largely in denial about how much of an effect it had.


by Bjinse on Thu Sep 14th, 2017 at 08:58:50 AM EST
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As I've posted in OT-

I still think that all this talk of the odd percent here and there misses the point. The worst candidate in US history beat Clinton. Now, to my mind, Clinton would have been a great candidate in another time, indeed she would have beaten McCain and Romney if it hadn't been for Obama.

But, America is looking for different answers than the ones she provides, the old verities about Wall St and Big Business and Free Trade no longer ring true for many who desperately need a Democratic legislative programme.

Yes, it's absolutely true that, whatever the political question, Trump is not the answer. But the success of his insurgency demonstrates that the odd percent wasnt gonna cut it. Cos even if Hillary won the WH, the GOP won both houses, so she'd have been legislatively dead in the water but she'd have been blamed for the deadlock and the GOP would have won again in 2020. Hillary did NOT enthuse people about her Presidency. The Democratic Party did NOT enthuse anybody about them winning the House and the Senate, they were all about minimal, marignal pointless improvements; almost like they don't really want the responsibility of making real changes.

At least, the Dems can look to 2020 with hope that they can utterly reverse the situation

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Sep 14th, 2017 at 11:47:15 AM EST
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The "worst candidate" obtained sufficient electoral votes in the the so-called "college" to win the office. The point evaded is, an archaic and anti-democratic, but constitutional, law establishes US gov't and thwarts majoritarian preferences.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Thu Sep 14th, 2017 at 02:45:45 PM EST
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Sam Wang had the same analysis in December 2016 from looking at the polls.

The Comey effect

After the Affordable Care Act premium hike announcement, opinion did not move for days, arguing against this as a main driver of the late swing in opinion. It could still be a factor, as is the case for many events. But such an effect would have to be gradual.

However, the big change does coincide well with the release of the Comey letter. Opinion swung toward Trump by 4 percentage points, and about half of this was a lasting change. This was larger than the victory margin in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Florida, and Wisconsin. Many factors went into this year's Presidental race, but on the home stretch, Comey's letter appears to have been a critical factor in the home stretch.

Then again, it should really be completed with studies on what percentage was reached by what news. After all, the whole arguments around Cambridge Analytica and/or russian trolls, is based on filter bubbles. If the MSM still reaches the whole population and everybody knew about ACA rate hikes and the Comey letter, then is there really any filter bubbles?

Also, the Democratic party study this spring that concluded that many Obama-to-Trump voters in the Midwest were motivated by economic concerns. So when did they make up there minds?

by fjallstrom on Thu Sep 14th, 2017 at 12:56:36 PM EST
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Clinton lost because of this 1987 book:

Allan Bloom, The Closing of the American Mind

by das monde on Thu Sep 14th, 2017 at 04:24:15 PM EST
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The modern liberal philosophy, he says, enshrined in the Enlightenment thought of John Locke--that a just society could be based upon self-interest alone, coupled by the emergence of relativism in American thought--had led to this crisis.

The rational self-interested actor is the true messiah.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Fri Sep 15th, 2017 at 04:31:07 PM EST
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Harold Bloom, The American Religion
Harold Bloom, The Book of J
11 Now the man knew Hava, his wife, in the flesh; she conceived Cain: "I have created a man as Yahweh has," she said when he was born.



Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Fri Sep 15th, 2017 at 05:04:38 PM EST
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That's other Bloom, right? Connection?
by das monde on Sat Sep 16th, 2017 at 05:10:27 PM EST
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Bloom:Bloom,
original liberalism:USA liberalism,
original religion:USA religion,
original sin:hava

This is why Clinton lost.

ha.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Sun Sep 17th, 2017 at 01:27:39 PM EST
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Faith, Certainty and the Presidency of George W. Bush -- by Ron Suskind
The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality."

I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

One Bloom studied an American religious reality. The other Bloom defined the American liberalism.

Hillary is still studying "what happened" in 2016. She was then supposed to define what was happening.

"There are people who make things happen,
there are people who watch things happen,
and there are people who wonder what happened."

by das monde on Mon Sep 18th, 2017 at 06:24:38 AM EST
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Perhaps the noble lady called J was too discrete to broach the question that came to my mind at age 8 when reading Genesis: "But where did Cain and Able's wives come from? Were they Adam and Eve's daughters?" For literalist fundamentalists one might think this to be an important question. But, then, I highly doubt Bloom counts himself among that group. And I doubt that J was either. It is another affliction of modernity.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Sep 18th, 2017 at 03:00:27 AM EST
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Well-known billionaire cashes 13-cent check
Back in 1990, Spy magazine conducted an experiment in "comparative chintziness." Its goal was to find out "Who is America's cheapest zillionaire?" Or, put another way, "how cheap are the rich?"

To determine this they sent various rich people each a check for 13 cents, and then waited to see who would actually cash such a tiny check. Two people did: Donald Trump and the Saudi Arabian businessman Adnan Khashoggi.

by das monde on Tue Sep 12th, 2017 at 08:43:57 AM EST
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But did he declare it on his income tax return?
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Tue Sep 12th, 2017 at 08:44:56 AM EST
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by das monde on Tue Sep 12th, 2017 at 08:56:38 AM EST
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Has nothing to do with Trumpy's chintziness.  He probably has a brainless accounting gofer doing his deposits, with clear instructions to deposit EVERYTHING or get fired. Some idiot just preserving his job.

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Tue Sep 12th, 2017 at 04:00:53 PM EST
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Either way, Trump is exceptional.
by das monde on Wed Sep 13th, 2017 at 03:02:25 AM EST
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Yes he (it?) is.  Keith Olbermann keeps harping on "Trump is crazy!"  Trumpy acts like an elected Emperor and is attempting to get there.  Plus, his main worry is going to jail, dying there.  How would you be acting if you had Trump's history and had Meuller at el on your trail?  The only thing that will save Trumpy will be Meuller's findings being covered up, "CLASSIFIED", so that the public doesn't see all of the TREASON and collusion by that TERRORIST GROUP, the REPUBLICANS!

Truly interesting times.  I won't miss them.

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Fri Sep 15th, 2017 at 11:02:45 PM EST
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by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Wed Sep 13th, 2017 at 05:36:51 PM EST
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Pretty funny. Another byline I created for calculatedrisk correspondents was actually a refrain.

THERE IS ONE ECONOMY.
THE ECONOMY IS THE TRUE MESSIAH.

Like punctuation, a comma certainly.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Thu Sep 14th, 2017 at 03:52:28 PM EST
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by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Wed Sep 13th, 2017 at 06:03:28 PM EST
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Enemy of the People is all atwitter today, because Mr Trump has indicated he will not oppose (and may even support) Democratic Party sponsored legislation to enact DACA in United States Code (USC). Many supercilious photo opportunities and political "analyses" have since cascaded the people's media of choice.

Well, I am livid. COME TO FIND OUT, Lindsey Graham Cracker introduced the bill S.1615 -- 115th Congress (2017-2018) 20 July 2017. It boasts nine (9) co-sponsors, of which Durbin, Schumer, Feinstein, Cortez, Harris, and Bennet --six Democrats who may well claim weeks from now to have only been born 14 September 2017.

Tell me. What pleasure do these people experience from torturing one million "dreamers"?

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Thu Sep 14th, 2017 at 05:31:50 PM EST
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Trump confirms a single sentence

To authorize the cancellation of removal and adjustment of status of certain individuals who are long-term United States residents and who entered the United States as children, and for other purposes.



Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Thu Sep 14th, 2017 at 05:57:18 PM EST
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