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Commenting on the fact that N. Ireland effectively costs British taxpayers about £10 Billion in subsidies each year, Fintan O'Toole, as usual, has a good take on the DUP position:
In the latest Future of England survey, there is a buried landmine.

It has received some attention for the breathtaking revelation that fully 83 per cent of Leave voters and 73 per cent of Conservative voters agree that "the unravelling of the peace process in Northern Ireland" is a "price worth paying" for Brexit that allows them to "take back control".

But there is actually an even more explosive finding, less immediately lurid but of far greater consequence for the DUP. The proposition put to these English voters is this: "Revenue raised from taxpayers in England should also be distributed to Northern Ireland to help Northern Irish public services." Just 25 per cent of Leave voters, and 29 per cent of people who said they voted Conservative in 2017, agree.

What is even more striking is that antipathy to sharing English tax revenues actually rises if Northern Ireland is explicitly included in the question. In the abstract, 38 per cent of Leave voters agree that revenue raised from taxpayers in England should be spread across the whole of the UK. That falls to 25 per cent when Northern Ireland is explicitly mentioned.

Tories and Brexiteers in England are literally not buying the union any more. On the only real test that matters - the willingness to share their money with their kith and kin in Ulster - three-quarters of English Leave voters have their hands firmly in their pockets. The message could not be clearer: Kith? My arse!

And here's the true idiocy of the DUP's alliance with the Brexit ultras: the only people in England who are still willing to subsidise Northern Ireland are Remainers. The DUP has taken sides with the enemies of the union against its friends. While just 25 per cent of Leave voters are okay with it, 52 per cent of Remain voters in England agree that their taxes should pay for Northern Ireland's public services.



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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Wed Oct 17th, 2018 at 09:49:55 PM EST
tbh, I think the leaver view of N Ireland is that the tribal BS of nationalists and unionists isn't worth subsidizing.

Right now, the DUP posturing has been entirely without consequence. Their particular sense of entitlement is that the rest of the UK will protect their privileges using military force c/w an amusingly one-eyed view on how justice is applied in the Province. Knowing that, up until now, the UK Government have been willing to blow £10 billion a year on buying a peace between 2 communities whose divisions stem from injustices rooted in the 17th century, they have become careless about Westminster's committment to the status quo.

If the absence of EU internationalism and Westminster subsidy leads to community tensions, then the Unionists may be disappointed in the lack of response from a Westminster likely to have problems to deal with nearer to home. An SOS from Belfast might garner a response which, whatever language is used, would boil down to one of "Grow Up" or "You made your bed, now lie in it".

The curious atavistic status quo of Ulster cannot survive any likely form of brexit. I suspect that May knows it, but tactically, doesn't feel the need to inform the DUP. The constant re-affirmations of a committment to Ulster which have little resonance within the Leave coalition suggests to me that Arlene Phillips is being played.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Oct 18th, 2018 at 07:51:34 PM EST
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