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Brexit: Dominic Raab says deal is worse than staying in the EU
Britain's former Brexit secretary Dominic Raab has hit out at the British prime minister Theresa May's withdrawal deal, branding it worse than remaining in the EU.

The prominent Leave backer said the agreement would see the UK bound by rules it had no control over.

So you expected the EU to give you a better deal than full membership????

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2018 at 03:20:35 PM EST
Leavers cannot wrap their minds around the facts that exiting the EU means they are no longer members of the EU with the rights and privileges of membership in the EU.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Fri Nov 23rd, 2018 at 07:13:05 PM EST
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This is literally true.

It's a running joke on pro-Remain groups that everyone knows someone who lives in Spain or Portugal or France who voted for Brexit, and thinks that when freedom-of-movement ends it won't end for them, because they're British.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2018 at 07:47:22 PM EST
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I know British "expats" living in Spain who voted for Brexit because there are too many "brown people" immigrating to Britain and who don't see the irony of them living in Spain because they are expats, not immigrants. When asked what the difference is they struggle a bit because they don't want to say colour so they end up saying its something to do with having money and not being a burden on the state. But most are pensioners without a lot of money who moan about devaluation of Sterling losing them income, don't work, don't declare their income in Spain, and worry about losing their European Health Insurance card - free emergency healthcare - because they don't have and can't afford private healthcare insurance. They also don't seem to be aware that most EU immigrants into the UK
a) aren't brown,
b) work and pay tax in UK
c) keep essential services like the NHS functioning
d) have been educated/trained at somebody elses expense
e) are relatively young and healthy and therefore less of a burden on NHS services

When they start moaning about welfare tourism I remind them that Irish unemployment benefit is about three times the UK rate and yet our unemployment rate is declining rapidly (down from 16 to 5% in 5 years) and we can't get enough immigrants to build enough houses for our growing population.

Some even complain about immigrants disrupting the culture of British towns while making little effort to learn Spanish or integrate into Spanish society.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2018 at 11:53:46 PM EST
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Some even complain about immigrants disrupting the culture of British towns while making little effort to learn Spanish or integrate into Spanish society.
I'd say that is precisely the difference between expat and immigrant.
by Bernard on Sat Nov 24th, 2018 at 08:59:34 AM EST
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