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For a slightly more unlikely scenario of how Brexit could turn out, read Fintan O'Tooles take here. He envisages post Brexit carnage where Scotland votes of independence, and N. Ireland votes for Irish Unity, but the Irish Republic, worried by Northern violence and insolvency says no thanks....

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2018 at 06:53:33 PM EST
I agree the government should say "no thanks" to Irish unification, because Loyalist Terrorists, but I have reservations they would.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Fri Nov 2nd, 2018 at 07:10:35 PM EST
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It would be an issue which can only be decided by a popular referendum, as it would require changes to the Irish constitution.

In my view it would only be passed if there has been a very clear and detailed prior agreement between the British and Irish Governments on how the transfer of sovereignty would be managed, how minority rights would be safeguarded, what devolution would remain in place in N. Ireland, what transitional measures would be adopted, how the transition would be funded, and who carries the cost of outstanding pension liabilities, share of national debt etc.

The Irish government, for its part, would have to come up with a convincing economic plan as to how N. Ireland would be made more financially self-sufficient and how the whole process could be affordable without beggaring the Irish people. Some EU involvement would be necessary together with re-location expenses contributions for those who decide they don't want to live in a united Ireland.

The key word above is "detailed". We do not want a repeat of a Brexit referendum which is so vaguely worded it can mean almost anything the speaker wants it to mean. When you are changing a written constitution and seeking to bring people along with you, detail and clarity are very important.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2018 at 07:37:50 PM EST
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If given the possibility of uniting Ireland, perhaps the EU would fund whatever it takes to keep ex-NI solvent.
by asdf on Mon Nov 5th, 2018 at 09:58:05 PM EST
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I thinks the days of the EU altruistically funding "good causes" are probably over - see Greece. Yes a few million here and there, but not a few billion on an ongoing basis. But there is no reason why N. Ireland could not be economically sustainable in perhaps 15 years if governed well. The problem is getting there, and getting all parts of the community to buy into it.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Nov 6th, 2018 at 04:01:45 PM EST
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