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The problem is by what mechanism can this be achieved. Under the fixed term act, it's almost impossible to topple May even if she is a lame duck and can't pass critical legislation. If there is a leadership election, Tory rank and file will probably elect a hard Brexiteer.

Tory MPs will hardly agree to a GE - so that leaves a second referendum. Corbyn may be the obstacle here. Is there a majority in the Commons prepared to defy BOTH May and Corbyn? Could you organise a referendum by private members bill or does it have to be government sponsored legislation?

There is so much scope for playing games and brinkmanship and time is running out.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Sun Nov 25th, 2018 at 09:16:55 PM EST
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I'm not sure of the mechanism but apparently if this deal doesn't pass, there's cross party support for a new referendum.

To which I would counsel, be careful what you wsh for

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Nov 25th, 2018 at 10:53:36 PM EST
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There has been massive swing towards a second referendum in opinion polls since Raab et al resigned - now 14-20% margin in favour. The remain/leave margin is currently 6-8% in favour of remain. The right/wrong margin is 6/7% in favour of wrong. Not exactly decisive, although the trend seems to be towards remain. Of course everything depends on turnout.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Sun Nov 25th, 2018 at 11:30:26 PM EST
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If I understand the legislation correctly, if a vote of no confidence is passed, and no new vote of confidence is passed within two weeks, you have got yourself an election. And the Tories has a minority. So either if enough Tories abstains or if DUP freaks out and votes down the May government.
by fjallstrom on Sun Nov 25th, 2018 at 10:58:19 PM EST
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Yes, but up until now the DUP has been careful to say they won't vote no confidence, even though they will vote no to everything else. They know they will lose all influence if the Tories are defeated.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Sun Nov 25th, 2018 at 11:07:30 PM EST
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If Labour had a lick of sense, it would vote to keep May in.  The Tories have to be made to reap the whirlwind.
by rifek on Mon Nov 26th, 2018 at 04:43:27 AM EST
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