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Memo to self : try harder.
It's obvious that the writer is buying into Sullivan's (Sullivan's!) framing. And by your choice to meta-analyse Sullivan via a review of his rambling, trivial article, you are buying into it too, by considering the whole shambles to be worthy of comment. Frankly, it isn't.
To indulge you, I have read the first few paragraphs of Sullivan's drivel :
Everyone has a religion. It is, in fact, impossible not to have a religion if you are a human being. [SNIP] And we have the cult of social justice on the left, a religion whose followers show the same zeal as any born-again Evangelical. They are filling the void that Christianity once owned, without any of the wisdom and culture and restraint that Christianity once provided.
And we have the cult of social justice on the left, a religion whose followers show the same zeal as any born-again Evangelical. They are filling the void that Christianity once owned, without any of the wisdom and culture and restraint that Christianity once provided.
It doesn't seem to ever occur to anyone in this chain of commentary -- you at the top, down to Sullivan at the bottom -- that people can believe in things, and fight for them, because they are good in themselves, according to a self-defined system of values, without any need of tribal or religious validation.
That there are vast numbers of humans who have not achieved emancipation from their anthropoid need of tribal value systems, is self-evident, and the hardest political problem there is. It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
By religion, I mean something quite specific: a practice not a theory; a way of life that gives meaning, a meaning that cannot really be defended without recourse to some transcendent value, undying "Truth" or God (or gods). Which is to say, even today's atheists are expressing an attenuated form of religion.
Which is to say, even today's atheists are expressing an attenuated form of religion.
Your objection to rationality (what you call liberalism) is apparently the age-old one of religious moralists : "Gay rights brought down the Roman Empire", etc... It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
The subject of liberal religion is taking off on the dark internet:
Postmodern Religion and the Faith of Social Justice
The non-tribal people, those who actually buy into the idea of individual emancipation, don't seem to exist in your taxonomy (nor in that of Sullivan). That's fine with me :)
Just keep on trying to put me in a category. It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
Faith is characterized by absence of limits. As the drive for intersectional justice shows no sensitivity outside its focus, that will provoke categorizations and comparisons with Mao, alas. That is my message.
It does not matter what I categorize or not.
You're right about that.
There are always extremists on all sides on hot-button social issues. Your determination to categorize me with the people who are hostile to the study of "ROGD" tells us plenty about you, and nothing about me. (Oh I suppose you can guess my opinion on that subject. Will you kindly fill me in?) It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
Vinay Lal, among many other critics of western European historicism beside Foucault, has commented on such language, invented to displace humanity and 'civilization' and political sophistication of any sort in 'the other'.
One humorous, memorable quote in his survey of British India encapsulates the problem for anyone struggling to discard the yoke of the, one, 'progressive' value system:
What's the difference between anthropology and sociology? Sociology is when you study your own people. Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
That I learned about by reading Bernal, vol. II-III, lengthy application of historical linguistics to documentary artifacts of afro-asiatic languages. d<->t is common; a<->o vowels, too, (I forget the terminology off-hand) introduced a few dramatic lexical errors and transliterations in cognates, e.g. psyche.
< sigh >
return of "interdisciplinary study" in the '80s, "unlearning" a crazy-ass canon of besserwissen: "animals behave to maximize the number of gene copies for the future generation" is not "group selection."
Like I said, neologism is rife. Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
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