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29. ... c. Only KRYLOVA and BOGACHEVA receied visas, and from approximately June 4, 2014 through June 6, 2014, KRYLOVA and BOGACHEVA traveled in and around the United States, including stops in Nevada, California, New Mexico, Illinois, Michigan, Louisiana, Texas, and New York to gather intelligence.
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31. ... For example, starting in or around June 2016, Defendants and their co-conspirators, posing online as US persons, communicated with a real US person affiliated with a Texas-based grassroots organization. During the exchange, Defendants and their co-conspirators learned from the real US person that they should focus their activities on "purple states like Colorado, Virginia & Florida." After that exchange, Defendats and their co-conspirators commonly referred to targeting "purple states" in directing their effors. [p 13]
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80. On or about August 19, 2016, Defendants and their co-conspirators used the false US persona "Matt Skiber" account to write to the real US person affiliated with a Texas-based grassroots organization who previously had advised the false persona to focus on "purple states like Colorado, Virginia & Florida." Defendants and their co-conspirators told that US person, "We were thinking about your recommendation to focus on purple states and this is what we're organizing in FL." [p 29]
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85. On or about September 22, 2016, Defendants and their co-conspirators created and purchased Facebook advertisements for a series of rallies they organized in Pennsylvania, called "Miners for Trump" and scheduled for October 2, 2016. [p 30]


NANCY CORDAT: For anyone who voted for Who? these new indictments mean what?
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JOHN PODESTA: ... as one of your previous guests, Senator Koontz, noted, we won the popular vote by three million votes, ah, they were pushing votes, just to give one example, to Jill Stein. Her vote in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, was greater than the gap between, ah, Donald Trump and Who? in those states. So you can't prove that it did affect the outcome, but it certainly seems likely that it did have some impact.
CORDAT: But it does beg the question, How is that these Russian operatives knew how to focus on purple states like Michigan and Wisconsin, and your campaign didn't?


Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Tue Feb 20th, 2018 at 06:56:49 PM EST
Basically, Hillary Clinton was impervious to information from outside her little circle of friends, groupies, tick birds, and parasites.  Her campaign was told, several times, they were in trouble in Wisconsin and Michigan.  Following their leader they chose to stick their heads up their ass and ignore the warnings.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Tue Feb 20th, 2018 at 07:19:20 PM EST
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Basically, IRA did NOT know they ought to contract or stimulate any illegal "political activity" in Michigan or Wisconsin, according to the indictment.

To answer Ms Cordat's question.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Tue Feb 20th, 2018 at 07:49:35 PM EST
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Monday, MSNBC's presenter repeated Podesta's fabrication of the indictment's facts for Face the Nation (Sunday), saying, IRA's "political advertising" for Michigan and Wisconsin, so-called purple states, produced an unexpected ballot outcome. These are states where Trump narrowly defeated Who?

There is no such information in Mueller's indictment. As I have demonstrated with excerpts (above), Mueller's investigation does not report IRA "focus" on either Michigan or Wisconsin. Read it yourself.

Podesta's fabrication of facts presented as evidence of IRA's illegal electioneering serve only to furnish a supposition, but for Russian "political advertising", Trump probably would not have been elected.

Furthermore, the MSNBC presenter elaborates a fabricated  electoral advantage produced by IRA "political advertising" for presidential candidate Jill Stein.

Stein got 1% of total popular votes, 0 electoral votes.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Wed Feb 21st, 2018 at 06:19:16 AM EST
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What was the distribution of Who? ballots across the USA?

Clinton's popular vote lead passes the 2 million mark
"The Democratic vote was not distributed well enough [SIC] across the country, however;  Trump carried most of the states and prevailed in the Electoral College."

Baffled by Fog of War, Rumors, and Just Plain Bullshit?

"Hillary Clinton garnered 4.3 million more votes than Donald Trump in the nation's most populous state", TRUE or FALSE?

It's true that if California's vote totals were entirely removed from the equation ...
There is some validity to pointing out that the 2016 election is an exemplar of a modern trend that generally sees Democratic candidates tending to receive large numbers of votes from densely-populated metropolitan areas in states such as New York and California, while Republican candidates tend to collect votes from geographically larger but less populated portions of the country -- one of the main factors behind this election's disparity between the popular vote (which Clinton won) and the electoral vote that actually decides the election (which Trump won). This phenomenon could be viewed as a positive ...
It may also be true, as Donald Trump has claimed, that without our winner-take-all ...
In any case, it is true that the margin of votes by which Hillary Clinton won the state of California was significantly greater than the margin by which she won the national popular vote. But even if Clinton's 4.3 million vote victory over Trump in California provided her overall winning edge, it wouldn't be an issue if she hadn't also amassed enough votes all the other states to make that outcome possible.
but for
illegal IRA electioneering to registered voters in the 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, or 30 most populous states.

Dave Leip's Atlas of U.S. Presidential Elections - County Data
"Note: The Google advertisement links below may advocate political positions that this site does not endorse."

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Thu Feb 22nd, 2018 at 08:56:09 PM EST
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Data source: 2017 State of Mental Health in America - Adult Prevalence (pub'd. Oct 2016). View MHA 2015 ranking here, eg. HI #1, MI #21, WI #28, FL #6, Nat'l. avg 18.01%.


"A high ranking on the Prevalence Ranking indicates a lower prevalence of mental health and substance use issues."
Assume the MHA data from rank is derived are accurate descriptions of populations receiving treatment.

States outlined BLUE were named as "focus" IRA focus by Podesta. IRA states of interest named the indictment are outlined BLACK. BLUE dot(s) indicate electoral votes assigned to Who?

One might infer from this "visualization" that the states which both Who? and IRA "political advertising" ignored were more "deplorable" than actual "focus" states; or all of them except NY were populated by IRA co-conspirators.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Sat Feb 24th, 2018 at 11:30:11 PM EST
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"CORDAT: But it does beg the question, How is that these Russian operatives knew how to focus on purple states like Michigan and Wisconsin, and your campaign didn't?"
Perhaps the IRA personnel had access to Cambridge Analytic's data by means fair or foul. This surely would be the crown jewel in any indictment Mueller could bring were he able to show coordination between the Trump campaign and the IRA or other enties of the Russian government. And because the Clinton campaign was incompetent, arrogant and out of touch. My estimate is that it is likely 95% Clinton campaign incompetence and, at best, 5% Russian meddling. But the election was closely decided and she won the popular vote.

I would personally prefer that half the energy that has gone into the Mueller probe had gone into ensuring that all voting machines used in the general elections had paper trails so that individual voters could take their stubs and use them to verify that their votes were recorded as they made them at the booth. It is virtually an admission of a desire to tamper with the vote that we do not already have such requirements.

Remember Diebold representatives joking about their 'program for victory' in 2012 in Ohio?

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Feb 28th, 2018 at 02:28:31 AM EST
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I would personally prefer that half the energy that has gone into the Mueller probe had gone into ensuring that all voting machines used in the general elections had paper trails

Just abolish voting machines and count by hand.

by generic on Wed Feb 28th, 2018 at 09:20:33 AM EST
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I just saw a report stating that over half of US States are using paper ballots, including Pennsylvania, Virginia and other big states. I think it is well worth a hand count of paper ballots every two years to ensure the integrity of our elections. I can only hope it becomes all states before November.


"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Mar 1st, 2018 at 05:15:52 AM EST
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Amid Election Security Worries, Suddenly Paper Ballots Are Making a Comeback | The Intercept |

Every secretary of state was invited to a closed-door briefing at the Department of Homeland Security, while federal experts spoke to a wider audience at the conference.

Brig. Gen. Timothy T. Lunderman, a cybersecurity expert at the National Guard, ran a session laying out to the assembled officials the resources available to them in the event of a cyberattack or intrusion on their systems. "If you take something away from today's message, it is that we are a team," he said.

One way to allay concerns about the integrity of electronic voting machine infrastructure, however, is to simply not use it. Over the past year, a number of states are moving back toward the use of paper ballots or at least requiring a paper trail of votes cast.  

Ballotpedia: Voting methods by state
German government state of cybersecurity
Dutch election returned to red pencil ballots (2009)
Dutch ballots to be counted by hand amid hacking fears | NY Times - Feb. 2017 |

'Sapere aude'

by Oui (Oui) on Thu Mar 1st, 2018 at 10:48:19 AM EST
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