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I think you know I wsn't referring to you as an authoritarian simpleton.

I swear I had no idea. If you are saying that it was a strawman with no relevance to anything I have written in the thread, I suppose I can consider that as an apology.

If media ownership in France is an issue, that is a national competency. Please don't blame the EU.

I never blamed the EU for it. On the other hand, it will only be resolved, if ever, on a European level. Oligarchs don't cede that sort of control easily. That will be a civilizational progress.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Tue Jun 12th, 2018 at 11:17:00 PM EST
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It was directed at common critiques of the EU's lack of accountability - particularly as articulated by Brexiteers, but perhaps best personified by Trump supporters in other contexts: "just because a person hasn't taken the trouble to understand the EU (or any complex matter) doesn't mean its all wrong..."

One of the reasons I strongly support the EU is that I don't see individual countries and especially smaller countries like Ireland having sufficient bargaining power to really take on the Oligarchs, media moguls and global corporations. However that requires transferring even more competencies to the EU, and also probably explains why so many Oligarchs are anti-EU even though their business models often require the existence of the Single market.

For years Michael O'Leary of Ryanair was a staunch critic of the EU even though Ryanair only became possible with the establishment of Blue Skies and regulation of state aids for National carriers etc. He had a sudden conversion to being somewhat pro-EU when he realised Brexit put his business model at risk. Of course he will still oppose EU regulation/promotion of consumer and employee rights and indirect state aids to his airline, but at least the EU has the clout to take him on on those issues.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Jun 12th, 2018 at 11:40:02 PM EST
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OK that's a lot clearer : you are unambiguously FOR the existing technocratic lobby-captured structure, and in favour of transferring more competencies into that opaque magma, and AGAINST any attempt to make it more transparent or bring any degree of real democratic accountability to bear. To the extent that you assimilate any attempt at positive reform with the wreckers -- Farage, Trump, Salvini etc.

That existing model has brought the EU to the edge of implosion. The fallacy that the Council represents the interests of the EU -- and that it is democratic -- ought to be easy to see through.

With nationalism back in style, we need an empowered Parliament. Even with a right wing majority, the fact that matters are debated transparently, with all the arguments on the table, means that even the right wingers are more progressive than their respective governments.

The 2019 elections are our last chance to salvage the EU. It's a long shot, and after that I shall cultivate my garden.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Wed Jun 13th, 2018 at 08:29:20 AM EST
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