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Every reaction they had to that initial story over the weekend only served to confirm that the report existed and had been reported faithfully.
The thing is that people's willingness to believe the promises of the brexiteers has been eroded. I admit I had no faith to start with, but I'm talking about the faithful now. If you start losing the Times, which has been quite evident judging by the fact that they even published it, then you're already eating into the brexit voting classes.
They may not be the right wing ultras at the Mail or the ERG fanatics at the Telegraph, but the Timess probably represents the majority sentiment of those who voted Leave. They were willing to go along with almost all of it, even anticipating a slight dip in fortunes in the expectation of long term improvement, as long as it wasn't going to be catastrophic. But now the evidence is rolling in that the brexiteers are in over their heads, constantly being sideswiped by issues such as Ulster that are both as unexpected as they are intractable.
It. Is. Going. To. Be. A . Disaster. And if the Times starts saying it with any conviction, then that pro-brexit polling is gonna melt away in the summer heat with a very cold winter coming. keep to the Fen Causeway
It is quite something to get voters to agree that a decision taken by the nation is wrong. If the question is worded differently, e.g. if voters are asked to vote on the agreed terms of leaving many more might vote to stay, as doing so doesn't involve admitting the original decision was wrong. It might just require an acceptance that the Tories haven't done a very good job of negotiating advantageous terms for leaving.
If you wanted to be really Machiavellian, you could argue the British Establishment has done an absolutely awful job of negotiating advantageous terms of leaving in order to facilitate such an outcome. However the national humiliation involved in staying now would probably be enough to kick the Tories out of the two party governmental system in the UK, with the Lib Dems taking their place.
So it is absolutely required of the Tory leader to prevent such an outcome, whatever the damage to the UK as a whole. However I doubt Theresa May could survive a failure to negotiate and agree any kind of deal, so she personally doesn't have an awful lot to lose any more.
If she loses a Commons vote on the outcome of the negotiations she has four options:
Please note my view (not really officially confirmed, to my knowledge) that accepting an A50 withdrawal requires unanimity on the Council, which is not a given. The UK might have to give humiliating undertakings not to invoke A50 again for many years. Although a British government cannot bind a future one, an international Treaty can. Index of Frank's Diaries
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