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I doubt that Flake or any other Republican can deny Trump the republican nomination in 2020 unless Trump starts and loses a major war. I am aware than Independents aren't an organisation as such (by definition!). However voters voting for an independent candidate can influence the outcome. For example Ross Perot made it possible for Bill Clinton to win with 43% of the vote by taking 19% of the vote many of which might otherwise have gone to Bush snr. So if Flake (or someone similar) ran as an Independent and attracted a significant number of otherwise Republican leaning votes, it would be easier for the democratic nominee to win.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon Jun 4th, 2018 at 10:21:14 PM EST
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Did I predict Trump would not be nominated? No.

Let's recap.
I said he would not be elected again. Any one but:

I suggested that regardless of binary statistical descriptions of voter preferences, the true "margin of error" --independent voters-- will be the instrument of Trump's defeat. They will join with Trump opposition constituents in both parties to form a majority "for love of money."

Independent is a party of one. Squabbling over profits lost, jobs saved or created.

Now, you've pointed out --to the size of the minority faction with no indication of irony-- that splitting 56% of the remaining electorate (hidebound, middle-class, "Reagan" republican voters) lost the incumbent (G.H.W. Bush) the seat.

Case closed.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Mon Jun 4th, 2018 at 11:55:26 PM EST
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There aren't any independents positioning themselves to run (Howard Schultz rumors to the contrary, and besides, how likely is it that Starbucks is going to mobilize the masses?), so it will be D vs. R in 2020, and the DNC will make sure R will win.  In a sane system, the DNC would be foaming at the mouth over all the disenfranchisement plots, such as the one our glorious SCOTUS just upheld in Ohio, except for one, small thing: Those plots help the DNC.  The folks losing their voting privileges would be voting for progressives, not the neoliberal stooges the DNC keeps foisting on us, so the Rethuglican vote suppressors are actually helping the DNC tools maintain control over the Democratic Party.
by rifek on Fri Jun 15th, 2018 at 01:39:06 AM EST
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No one has declared for POTUS 2020. No sane or sincere candidate would want to position him or herself now for two more years of Trump "troll" tweets with schmears and streaks of MSNBC and FOX.

Look what happened to Flake.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Jun 15th, 2018 at 01:41:35 PM EST
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