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German union to start pay talks for Ryanair cabin crew on Wednesday
< pick teeth, suck vigorously >

If only he could clone himself. I wonder idly how Mr O'Rourke resolved that first strike by cabin crew? The press has not reported on terms since.

archived
Ryanair Cabin Crews in 4 European Countries Go On Strike + IE pilots 25 July
"The airline responded Thursday by warning some 100 pilots and 200 cabin crew members that they could lose their jobs as it cuts its Dublin-based aircraft fleet from 30 to 24."

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Tue Aug 14th, 2018 at 08:27:47 PM EST
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D3 - CLOSING

Independent | 'Painstaking' peace talks at Ryanair enter last day

[LAST UPDATE] August 15 2018 2:30 AM
[...]
If the latest talks collapse, the chances of a resolution will be much dimmer as Ryanair is not believed to be in favour of State mediation bodies getting involved.
Times | Ryanair pilot talks continue into the night
[LAST UPDATE] about 6 hours ago
[BACKGROUND]
RTE | Talks between Ryanair and pilots' union continue
[LAST] Updated / Wednesday, 15 Aug 2018 18:57
[...]
Yesterday's talks ended at 11.40pm and resumed at 11.30am today.
[...]
The union negotiating team is made up of representatives of Ryanair pilots who are members of the Irish Airline Pilots' Association (IALPA) and Fórsa officials, assisted by ICTU General Secretary Patricia King.]
Lemmesee: base-cut, two-tier compensation structure? I bet they fell for it.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Thu Aug 16th, 2018 at 01:57:34 AM EST
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Flightright taking Ryanair to court over compensation for passengers affected by the airline's strikes
EU rules [!!] state that passengers can claim monetary compensation of up to 400 euros for flights within the region for cancelled or delayed flights, unless the reason is extraordinary circumstances, such as bad weather.
wut [1], [2], [3]
Strikes have generally fallen under extraordinary circumstances [?] although a ruling by the European Court of Justice in April said that a wildcat strike by staff at German airline TUIfly following a restructuring could not be classed as extraordinary circumstances.
A 'wildcat strike' by flight staff following the surprise announcement of a restructuring does not constitute an 'extraordinary circumstance' releasing the air line from its obligation to pay compensation in the event of cancellation or long delay of flight ... The Court further observes that the fact that the social movement in question should be classified, under the applicable German social legislation, as a 'wildcat strike' because it was not formally initiated by a trade union is irrelevant
Flightright takes Ryanair to court over compensation for passengers affected by recent pilot strikes
Flightright, like other passenger rights groups, helps passengers to claim compensation from airlines under EU261 rules in exchange for a 25 to 30% share of the compensation received.
perverting "class action" advocacy and "market power"
Ryanair, therefore, urges passengers to file claims with them directly. "Ryanair deals with each claim on a case-by-case basis [!] and requires our customers to submit flight disruption claims directly to Ryanair. We do this solely to ensure that all Ryanair customers will receive 100pc [!]of their EU261 compensation."

But what if Ryanair says beforehand that it will not pay compensation?

In Belgium, the consumer union [!!] Test Achats/Aankoop has introduced a claim against Ryanair on behalf of 50 passengers among its members affected by the cabin crew and pilot strikes, with more dossiers to follow.

archived act of god
Ireland, Germany, Belgium, Netherlands, Sweden


Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Thu Aug 16th, 2018 at 03:06:44 AM EST
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I have only flown with ryanair occasionally and would take considerable effort to avoid them.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Aug 16th, 2018 at 03:45:52 PM EST
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Independent UPDATE (none)

Examiner UPDATE (none)

Belfast Telegraph, digression
Will this climate of share buybacks pay future dividends for companies?
"CRH, Paddy Power Betfair and Ryanair are spending billions on their own shares. ..."

RTE UPDATE
Fourth day of Ryanair talks to get under way in coming days
"adjourned", [BACKGROUND]

Times UPDATE
Ryanair pilot talks to continue later this week

Talks ended at 12.30am on Thursday morning after a 12 hour session [BACKGROUND] IALPA-Forsa said in a statement that the negotiations were expected to resume later this week.
[BACKGROUND]
Little known fact: While the press plays possum, Mr O'Rourke clones himself. MWAHAHAHAhaha.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Thu Aug 16th, 2018 at 04:41:28 PM EST
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D4 - MOSTLY DEAD

Independen, Examiner, Belfast Telegraph UPDATE (none)

Times | Hopes mount that Ryanair and Irish pilots can broker deal

Airline and pilots meeting for a fourth day under mediator Kieran Mulvey
[BACKGROUND]
An IALPA-Forsa spokesman said that a "fair bit had been done" this week and added that Mr Mulvey was unlikely to have scheduled a fourth day if he did not believe the sides could make further progress.
[BACKGROUND]


Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Fri Aug 17th, 2018 at 03:06:53 PM EST
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Pilot and cabin crew trade unions gather in Rome first week of September
"Portuguese newspaper Dinheiro Vivo picked up this information from Portuguese trade union SNPVAC. A list of demands will be drafted during this big meeting. "If Ryanair doesn't comply with these demands, the airline may face the biggest strike in its history," trade unions warned."
In an open letter, unions from Belgium, Italy, Portugal and Spain
Dear Ryanair Shareholders,
[....]
After months of frustrating talks, innocuous meetings and even strike actions in some countries, we fail to see a 'sincere and genuine' union integration process and the willing to engage in a negotiation with the workers' legitimate representatives in each country, instead of some hand-picked Unions [US-Eng., company union] , by convenience of the Ryanair management.

Quite the opposite, in fact.
[...]
What happened was a polarization of the parties' positions due to a continuous refusal from Ryanair representatives to follow the local regulations and refusal to respect the Unions role in their own countries.

Ryanair management continues to use bullying as a management tool, that punishes people for being sick, that sends intimidating letters to the people that exercised their right to strike, threatening to cut jobs in the countries affected and insisting on perpetuating a business model that we all consider to be obsolete.
[...]
We strongly believe that Ryanair is capable of adapting its business to the commercial and social reality of today's Europe, based on dignity, freedom, democracy, equality and the rule of law.

What we don't believe is that current management has the necessary trust from the employees nor the skill set [!] to perform these changes.
[...]
Yours sincerely,

SNPVACS - CNE - sitcplaSITCPLA - USO - UILTRASPORTI - FILT-CGIL - LBC-NVK

o, SSSSSsssssssnap

from the back bench

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Aug 17th, 2018 at 03:31:51 PM EST
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m'k. Inside baseball in the trade puts seems to confirm existing terms and conditions of employment --none nice-- and setting inauguration for collective bargaining in the company union. It is not ceremonial. De plane Boss' fantasy is to spread IE right-to-work efficiency across the EU.

German Cabin Crew Union Starts Talks with Ryanair Today, Wed, 15 Aug

[W]e weren't expecting either side to show their hand or give the world a running commentary.

And that's why a new statement from Ver.di is so interesting.  The union is making three key demands:

  • A "substantial" increase in pay
  • Recognising German* employment law
  • Equal conditions for directly [!] employed and agency [ie. "temp", "zero-contract"!] cabin crew

"The income must finally become viable and predictable. Due to seasonal fluctuations and a lack of flight hours guarantee some full-time employees receive only around € 1,000 gross per month. That is completely unacceptable," explains the union's Christine Behle.
[...]
At present, Ryanair forces all its cabin crew to sign Irish employment contracts - a policy that they say is perfectly legal, reasonable and not one they have any plans to change.
Low bar, colossal dick
Seven cabin crew unions write to Ryanair shareholders demanding an end to unrest, 17 Aug
A spokesperson for Ryanair said: "We don't comment on false claims made by smaller unions, many of whom are not recognised by Ryanair. Letters to shareholders (such as this) are a failed attempt to generate fake news and will be ignored by both Ryanair and our shareholders."
This is the language of psychopathy.

* and Belgian, Swedish, Portuguese, Italian, Spanish, French, Greek, Polish

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Sat Aug 18th, 2018 at 01:51:06 AM EST
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D4 - DEAD
Talks between Ryanair and pilots' union adjourned

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Sat Aug 18th, 2018 at 04:10:08 AM EST
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Couldn't happen to a more deserving company; bunch of shits from the top down

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Aug 20th, 2018 at 05:52:01 PM EST
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