06 - 12 August 2018 | 96 comments (96 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Well... (4.00 / 2)

If they focused exclusively on CO2 ( = 1) effects on global climate while ignoring the effects of methane (x10) and nitrous oxide or N2O (x 300) then the "unreliable results" become inevitable.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Wed Aug 8th, 2018 at 04:04:31 AM EST
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The ignoring is not deliberate, the science toolbox is empty. People are actively looking for a reliable paleo-methane proxy, but it's only at the very beginning. I don't know if or what's happening on N2O. There's a reason why geosciences is constantly compared to six blind men touching an elephant...

by Bjinse on Wed Aug 8th, 2018 at 07:58:44 AM EST
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Re: Quite (none / 0)

Well the good news is that we're planning this lovely big experiment to work out the parameters. The bad news ...

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Aug 8th, 2018 at 10:02:05 AM EST
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Given, for instance, how bad the wildfire & drought problems have become in recent years and given the powerful positive feedback loops seemingly in operation it would seem that the appropriate thing for climate scientists to agree is that the only sane approach is an all out mitigation of all the known factors in the hope that the end result will be a planet that is salvageable. And they need to state that we don't know how bad things will get or how quickly.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Aug 9th, 2018 at 11:47:22 PM EST
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There is the circumference of earth.

Currently there are a finite number of instruments placed on land and in particular seas to measure their heat, volume of specified gases, and their rates of change in a specified period. Satellites launched by government and commercial enterprises, too, periodical transmit images to document latent topographical changes in a specified period.

This latent data is generally understood to convey predictive knowledge of climatology, while life on earth stews in filth.

Factor analysis is not well understood.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Wed Aug 8th, 2018 at 12:16:55 PM EST
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