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A Chara, Your correspondent, Newton Emerson, Opinion, Jan 17th. argues that Ireland's insistence on a backstop has backfired because it has increased the probability of a hard "no deal" Brexit which would turn the border into an external EU customs border on the 29th. March. Conversely, your correspondent, Noel Whelan, Opinion, Jan 18th. argues that it has increased the probability of Brexit being reversed, and thus resulting in the outcome most favoured by the Irish government all along. Only time will tell, who will ultimately be proved correct. However Newton Emerson also fundamentally misunderstands why insisting on a backstop was so important to the Irish government: Firstly the backstop was never primarily about trade in the first place. It was about peace and stability in Ireland, and therefore essentially non-negotiable. Secondly, to have placed a time limit on the backstop would have exposed the EU to a lot of pressure to give the UK permanent unfettered access to EU markets - in order to keep the border open - after the transition period when the EU would normally only give such access to a third country at considerable cost. Norway's per capita contribution for market access is equivalent to the UK's much hated net contribution to the EU. The UK would essentially be "having its cake and eating it." Thirdly, while the back-stop was the issue which provoked DUP opposition to May's deal, only 45 Tory MPs gave it as their primary reason for voting against the deal. So even adding a time limit would not have come even close to bringing May's deal across the line. Fourthly, even in a worst case scenario, where a no deal Brexit occurs, post Brexit negotiations will undoubtedly take place, and the Irish Government's and EU's red line of an open Irish border will have been burnt into the political landscape. The UK will not get a deal negotiated post Brexit that will create a hard border any more than it could beforehand. Lastly, the DUP will not hold the balance of power forever. A future Labour led government, or even a Tory government not dependent on DUP support will not be slow to jettison DUP interests if the UK's economic interests require it. Ultimately, very few in Great Britain care a jot whether N. Ireland remains in the Single Market and Customs Union or not, and customs controls in the Irish sea will barely raise an eyebrow. Kind regards, Frank Schnittger
Your correspondent, Newton Emerson, Opinion, Jan 17th. argues that Ireland's insistence on a backstop has backfired because it has increased the probability of a hard "no deal" Brexit which would turn the border into an external EU customs border on the 29th. March.
Conversely, your correspondent, Noel Whelan, Opinion, Jan 18th. argues that it has increased the probability of Brexit being reversed, and thus resulting in the outcome most favoured by the Irish government all along. Only time will tell, who will ultimately be proved correct.
However Newton Emerson also fundamentally misunderstands why insisting on a backstop was so important to the Irish government:
Firstly the backstop was never primarily about trade in the first place. It was about peace and stability in Ireland, and therefore essentially non-negotiable.
Secondly, to have placed a time limit on the backstop would have exposed the EU to a lot of pressure to give the UK permanent unfettered access to EU markets - in order to keep the border open - after the transition period when the EU would normally only give such access to a third country at considerable cost. Norway's per capita contribution for market access is equivalent to the UK's much hated net contribution to the EU. The UK would essentially be "having its cake and eating it."
Thirdly, while the back-stop was the issue which provoked DUP opposition to May's deal, only 45 Tory MPs gave it as their primary reason for voting against the deal. So even adding a time limit would not have come even close to bringing May's deal across the line.
Fourthly, even in a worst case scenario, where a no deal Brexit occurs, post Brexit negotiations will undoubtedly take place, and the Irish Government's and EU's red line of an open Irish border will have been burnt into the political landscape. The UK will not get a deal negotiated post Brexit that will create a hard border any more than it could beforehand.
Lastly, the DUP will not hold the balance of power forever. A future Labour led government, or even a Tory government not dependent on DUP support will not be slow to jettison DUP interests if the UK's economic interests require it. Ultimately, very few in Great Britain care a jot whether N. Ireland remains in the Single Market and Customs Union or not, and customs controls in the Irish sea will barely raise an eyebrow.
Kind regards,
Frank Schnittger
The Tory leadership has mismanaged the UK membership of the EU for many years. Failed negotiations on the preference of the British in Brussels, the option of the referendum by David Cameron, the call by Theresa May for new elections to "increase" Conservative majority and her position to negotiate a good deal with Europe. She failed on all accounts and got the DUP as a breaker of any viable deal as a first result. It became a non-starter with the pure arrogance to place further Tory party red lines.
Am still surprised, as you are, for an acceptable deal for all 28 parties laid down for the vote before Parliament. Not uncommon, the British are in no hurry, they cue in line for each to take a stab at proposals for Brussels "to eat cake". Global Warming - distance between America and Europe is steadily increasing.
The problem, now, is there is no good way out. May's deal, no deal, or a second referendum are all divisive options and few want to put their head on the block by opting for one. All are hoping that the final decision is made by others who will then reap the electoral damage.
I still think there is a small chance the European Council won't agree an A.50 extension if requested by the UK merely to extend the stalemate. Again, imagine the uproar if, say, Romania voted against extension effectively booting the UK out on March 29th.!
The Westminster debate is all about the UK and what various factions want. No one listens to the EU or Ireland and assumes that they will simply roll over and give the UK what it wants once they can agree on something.
Ridiculous proposals about a "managed Brexit" or the EU agreeing sectoral deals post Brexit are concocted out of thin air without any conception of how the EU actually works.
Apparently everyone has to change their laws and constitutions to accommodate the latest UK wheeze. Unreal... Index of Frank's Diaries
Clowns like Boris Johnson should just shut up!
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Again, imagine the uproar if, say, Romania voted against extension effectively booting the UK out on March 29th.!
From memory, one of the amendments proposed for the discussion on Tuesday 15th was that the UK should ratify the Withdrawal Agreement, subject to writing in unilaterally their own end date to the Backstop! That amendment was not proceeded with. Even before considering A.50 extension, I could imagine that attempting to modify the WA would have caused several of the 27 to reject the WA in the EP.
I found the opening contribution of Sir Geoffery Cox, Attorney General enlightening [top law adviser to the UK government]. I was surprised that 432 "lawmakers" chose to ignore his advice.
Orderly exit from the European Union would always require a withdrawal agreement along these lines. No alternative option now being canvassed in the House would not require the withdrawal agreement and now the backstop. Let us be clear: whatever solution may be fashioned if this motion and deal are defeated, this withdrawal agreement will have to return in much the same form and with much the same content. Therefore, there is no serious or credible objection that has been advanced by any party to the withdrawal agreement.
My emphasis added
It is useful to know that one government advisor has read Article 50, and understood the process, its inflexibility and consequences.
The complete official record of his contribution is here but more difficult to follow because of all the interruptions and his Shakespearean delivery.
Would the Irish government be compelled to implement checks on goods entering the Republic from the UK?
Failing that, would it push EU27 countries to start customs checks on goods from Ireland as well as from the UK?
It has always one of the Brexiters "solutions" to pull Ireland into a "UK customs union", obviously away from the EU Single Market.
Why Dublin won't yield on the backstop - Eurointelligence
If border checks have to go up as a result of no deal, it may look materially the same, but it is politically a different story. For one thing, the responsibility for the debacle would rest squarely with London, particularly as seen from the narrow vantage point of Irish nationalism. The government in Dublin would still be shielded from Irish nationalists' accusation of having accepted some deal with London entailing the possibility of a return to border checks. To be clear, this is not just a question of appearances, but one of a possible revival of now-latent tensions in Irish politics, comporting a possible threat of Irish-on-Irish terrorism. Just as importantly, the unspoken Irish gamble is that border checks as result of no deal would sooner or later be overcome. The hope is that the UK would find a no-deal relationship with the EU economically and politically so uncomfortable that reason would ultimately prevail. A chastened London would come back to the negotiating table to work out a deal with the EU entailing the restoration of an open inner-Irish border, this time for good.
Just as importantly, the unspoken Irish gamble is that border checks as result of no deal would sooner or later be overcome. The hope is that the UK would find a no-deal relationship with the EU economically and politically so uncomfortable that reason would ultimately prevail. A chastened London would come back to the negotiating table to work out a deal with the EU entailing the restoration of an open inner-Irish border, this time for good.
If there is a hard border it will be because of Brexit. Not because of the EU. Not because Ireland played the game wrong. Because of Brexit. Everyone is and has been trying to avoid a hard border because it was always a possible outcome of Brexit— The Irish Border (@BorderIrish) January 22, 2019
If there is a hard border it will be because of Brexit. Not because of the EU. Not because Ireland played the game wrong. Because of Brexit. Everyone is and has been trying to avoid a hard border because it was always a possible outcome of Brexit
Sinn Fein is actually pushing for a referendum on Irish Unity in the event of a no deal Brexit. That would solve the border problem too, but most doubt such a referendum is winnable in the short term, and there is also the small matter of the £10 Billion p.a. London subsidy of the North, which Dublin cannot afford.
The official position is that this is a problem for the UK to resolve, either now or even after a no deal Brexit. It is a game of chicken. Dublin is hoping Brussels won't be too legalistic or impatient, and allow the situation to linger until a solution on the lines of N. Ireland remaining within the customs union is agreed. After all this only reflects the democratic wish of N. Ireland to remain within the EU.
In the short-term the problem may be relatively trivial - while there is no regulatory divergence or widespread imposition of tariffs. But the German's aren't noted for their ability to tolerate ambiguity - an Irish trait - and so sooner or later a crisis may occur.
The Commission should be wary of doing the UK's dirty work for them - and caving in to DUP obstinacy when the majority in N. Ireland clearly want to live and work as part of the union. They have rights too. Index of Frank's Diaries
I have long felt that if Westminster wants to sort out N Ireland, then the mainland non-sectarian political parties should organise there. Whilst they refuse to do so and allow sectarian parties to dominate political debate in Ulster to the exclusion of all else, then there will never be progress there.
The deliberate propagation of sectarianism by the Westminster Establishment is the most sure sign that Ulster is a colonial project. In consequence, all talk of it being an indivisable part of the United Kingdom is complete tosh, a knowing and deliberate lie promoted at the expense of community harmony for the sake of fostering a false sense of superior citizenship on the part of Protestants, against a catholic minority.
If non-sectarian parties organised, this sense of superiority would be revealed as baseless. Historically the Westminster Establishment never wanted to risk that inevitable sense of betrayal on the part of the protestants because of the importance of Befast to the defence establishment. I really don't don't believe Ulster is that important anymore. Ulster is disposable, even if Westminster won't admit it. Yet. keep to the Fen Causeway
EU27 already have indicated to comical effect willingness to overlook low-value "slippage" between UK("NI") and IE.
The dilemma for UK is how to export bulk quantities of raw and finished goods (high-value) from the Big Island to EU27 and ROW without detection.
This board has been given many indications over the prior 6 months as to how EU27 intends to modify procedures and personnel, regardless feigned "technical" helplessness from UK gov.
To catch a pirate, one must think like a pirate.
The more pertinent and vital question is: How might EU27 facilitate movement of people between UK("NI") and IE in the event UK gov goes "full" North Korea? Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
Alternatively, Rest Of World I used to be afew. I'm still not many.
What are the consequences for UK trader given exit from EU? My remarks concern the consequences for UK traders on exit, given NI and IE are significant supply nodes in UK manufactures and distribution of ("marketing") unfinished and finished goods to EU27 and ROW. Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
Hence Ireland is (i) keen to remain in the EU, and (ii) anxious to maintain as functional and friction free trade with the UK as possible.
The UK doesn't seem to be as concerned about this, or else thinks that the ROW can't manage without them... Index of Frank's Diaries
To accomplish this feat manufacturers require access to diverse, international air and sea ports as well as long-haul transport. Manifest and customs inspection will be inescapable. Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
Seems to me the whole problem with Brexit is that there is a set of incompatible "non-negotiable" red lines. Why is this one more non-negotiable than the others?
"Ireland can correct their mistake and join the Union." Or NI should choose to reunite w its neighbour.
Seems with the rise of nationalism old conflicts resurface and done over looking for a different result. See the White Supremacist of the Trumpistas ... Civil Rights and the Great Civil War and legacy of president Abraham Lincoln.
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Step 1.
The Statutes of Kilkenny in 1366 commanded that "if any English, or Irish living among the English, use the Irish language amongst themselves, contrary to this ordinance, and thereof be attainted, his lands and tenements, if he have any, shall be seized into the hands of his immediate lord ..." This ban on the Irish language was accompanied was accompanied by an anti-miscegenation law.13 A later law required Irishmen to take on English surnames or forfeit property.14
Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat... until 1920 or so.
Step 2. Reward assimilated estate agents such as Irish, Scots, and Welsh.
Step 3. Export religious conflict
and so forth ...
It's gonna take a while for ROW to get over it, Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
Likewise British America.
< wipes tears > Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
Unlike other red lines from the UK governments, the Good Friday Agreement is also an international treaty between the governments of United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland, two sovereign countries. The treaty included many interesting things, like the removal of any territorial claims from the UK to the totality of Ireland and from the Republic to NI, the disarming of paramilitaries: essentially, the goal was to bring an end to the only remaining civil war within the EU.
The main effect of the GFA has been to remove pretty much all checks at the Irish border. A no-deal Brexit could change that however, but the Brexiters don't seem to have considered any effect on Ireland, North and South.
In reality, Leo Varadker, and the minority Fine Gael government he leads is the least nationalistic major party and government possible in Ireland. Fine Gael is descended from the faction which supported the Anglo-Irish Treaty of 1922 and accepted the partition of Ireland and the creation of the border as a price they had no option but to pay as the cost of obtaining freedom for the south from the British Empire.
There has always been a lingering sense that the N. Ireland nationalist community were betrayed as the price for independence for the south. Leo Varadker can't afford to be seen as betraying them all over again, failing in his duty to act as joint guarantor of the Good Friday Agreement, and indeed failing to give expression and support to the fact that a majority in N. Ireland voted against Brexit and voted to remain citizens of the EU.
Keeping the border open is therefore an existential issue for the government. Why should the DUP, which received only 28% of the vote in the last Assembly elections be allowed to hold the rest of the country to ransom? Supporting Brexit may have been a legitimate political choice before the referendum. Supporting it after it was decisively rejected by a majority in N. Ireland is a wanton act of political sectarianism calculated to undermine all the improvements in cross-community relations which have occurred since the GFA was ratified by referenda by majorities of 71% in the North and 94% in the south 1998. Index of Frank's Diaries
It could be as simple as a split between oldest sons (who inherited the family farm/business, and their siblings who had almost no prospects.
I would not be surprised if a large majority of those who emigrated to the USA during and after the civil war were those with a lesser stake in the status quo, lesser economic prospects, and disillusion with a political establishment who had traded their dream of a largely secular united Ireland with a much lesser 95% Roman Catholic dominated, conservative, repressive, 26 (out of 32) county state.
However I have never seen any data on the political allegiances of those who emigrated to the USA during this period, so this must remain a conjecture. Index of Frank's Diaries
The UK populace, and its political class, need to learn that decisions have consequences. That they might be unintended consequences doesn't get them off the hook. If they want to be able to strike new trade agreements -- a stupid idea, but that's their decision, it would seem - they need to do it in a manner that keeps the border open. It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
The anti-Brexit march last year turned out 700,000 people. When Leave try to organise a march or a rally, they're lucky to get hundreds.
The reality is that Brexit is a creation of the UK's insane ruling class and their compliant media, who have been known to manufacture the illusion of consensus against popular sentiment.
While there's some hardcore support, it's neither very active nor very widespread, and not really any larger than equivalent racist movements elsewhere.
Doesn't look obvious to me: many polls show a majority for Remain, but not by such a wide margin: 12 percentage points at best. We're not talking a 2/3 - 1/3 majority (and for some polls, the gap narrowed recently to 5%). I remember that the polls were predicting a clear Remain majority for the 2016 referendum.
If anything, the British society is still very divided by the issue: it is more than a fascist minority. Would the present Remain majority survive a second referendum? This would turn into a heated controversy about the establishment respecting the results referendums in the first place...
repetition of experts' conclusory remarks about statistical description of [INSERT DEROGATORY] in lieu of interpersonal communications
trivial evaluation comparison of hyperbole and repetitive facts to self-criticism (stereotype)
Some people may be relying on the wrong "tools" to identify and achieve mutually beneficial goals. Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
Northern Ireland: Suspected car bomb explodes in Londonderry | DW | A suspected car bomb exploded in the Northern Irish city of Londonderry late on Saturday, police have said. "As far as we know no one injured," police wrote on Facebook. A photo posted by the police's Twitter account showed what appeared to be a car in flames outside of a courthouse near the city center. Officers said they were evacuating people from the location of a second suspected car bomb elsewhere in the city. [...] This pointless act of terror must be condemned in the strongest terms. Only hurts the people of the City.Perpetrated by people with no regard for life.Grateful to our emergency services for their swift actions which helped ensure there have been no fatalities or injuries. (_link) — Arlene Foster (@DUPleader) January 19, 2019
A suspected car bomb exploded in the Northern Irish city of Londonderry late on Saturday, police have said.
"As far as we know no one injured," police wrote on Facebook.
A photo posted by the police's Twitter account showed what appeared to be a car in flames outside of a courthouse near the city center.
Officers said they were evacuating people from the location of a second suspected car bomb elsewhere in the city.
[...]
This pointless act of terror must be condemned in the strongest terms. Only hurts the people of the City.Perpetrated by people with no regard for life.Grateful to our emergency services for their swift actions which helped ensure there have been no fatalities or injuries. (_link) — Arlene Foster (@DUPleader) January 19, 2019
This pointless act of terror must be condemned in the strongest terms. Only hurts the people of the City.Perpetrated by people with no regard for life.Grateful to our emergency services for their swift actions which helped ensure there have been no fatalities or injuries. (_link)
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"Peace and stability" is a platitude. That condition can be satisfied by violent subjugation. (UK gov) Or by cooperation within the opposition to in order to obtain specific, vital resources: (1) negotiated settlement, (2) non-violent disobedience, desuetude, evasion, material safety (3) retreat (BATNA).
Absent re-incarnation by Sun Tzu, a reasonable observer could confidently state, negotiated settlement has failed. That outcome is not "shameful", IF one has learned from the experience how to act in order to foreclose future risks of failure.
Forget polling. Forget Foster. Foster is one. Foster is one of many lying SOSs who dominate UK gov and discourse on withdrawal in UK. Whatever UK gov says will not respect what they do. UK gov is regrouping in predictable impolitic fashion.
Theresa May seeks bilateral treaty with Ireland
The Sunday Times said aides to May believe a deal with Dublin would remove the huge opposition to the [UK] withdrawal agreement setting out its divorce from the European Union.
Typical "divide and conquer" rhetoric in motion on one flank; arming subversives in disputed territory on the other.
Ethics lesson: For each, given my knowledge and belief, how should I do? How will I act? Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
Homes evacuated in Circular Rd area of Derry/Londonderry after vehicle hijacked around 11:30am; 3 masked men hijacked white Transit van, before abandoning it. Community centre in Central Dr open to those evacuated. Cordons in place. We appreciate your patience. Updates to follow— PSNI (@PoliceServiceNI) January 21, 2019
Homes evacuated in Circular Rd area of Derry/Londonderry after vehicle hijacked around 11:30am; 3 masked men hijacked white Transit van, before abandoning it. Community centre in Central Dr open to those evacuated. Cordons in place. We appreciate your patience. Updates to follow
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The DUP knew well enough the potential of Brexit to restart the culture and sectarian wars in N. Ireland, but carried on regardless even after Brexit had been decisively defeated in the referendum in N. Ireland. Theresa May either didn't know or didn't care what the effect of aligning herself with the DUP would have on the politics of the island, and consequently on her negotiations with the EU.
If the outcome is a "no deal" Brexit all these chickens will come home to roost. Ongoing conflict between the UK and EU, a possible trade war, economic decline in the UK, political instability in N. Ireland, and perhaps a return to violence. Who put these idiots in charge?
Is It Derry or Londonderry? Index of Frank's Diaries
Whoops.
And yet many, although by no means all, Northern Unionists were happy enough to ditch that shared citizenship ....
[As I expect you are aware], some "signifcant" unionists (strangely) recognised the value of continued EU citizenship in 2016, despite campaiging for 'Leave'.
Apply for Irish passport if you can, advises DUP MP Ian Paisley
Pity about their subsequent actions and of their friends.
Most are uncomfortably aware that the south is thriving economically while the North is stagnating, and that their favourite stereotyping of the south as a priest ridden papal fiefdom is increasingly out of date. But never let the facts get in the way of a good slogan or a bit of "other bashing". Brexiteer bashing of the EU is very tame by comparison. Index of Frank's Diaries
Last week German foreign minister Heiko Maas made an unnecessary journey. He got up very early and flew to Dublin. At 9am he was in Dublin Castle to address the annual gathering of the Irish diplomatic corps. And at first, it seemed hard to understand why he had bothered. His speech began with a corny story that Simon Coveney had told him about how he and his siblings were in the middle of the ocean on a sailing trip. As a joke they sent out a message that they were having a birthday party and all nearby ships were welcome to join. But, said Maas, a German yacht heard the words "Irish" and "party" and suddenly appeared alongside them, bringing a keg of beer. So far, so toe-curling: Ireland, parties, beer. Was this cliched stuff really worth getting out of bed so early for? Except that Maas then went on to make a passionate defence of the Irish backstop to the withdrawal agreement between the UK and the EU, claiming the avoidance of a hard border not as an Irish issue but, remarkably, as "a question of identity for the European Union". And in his peroration, the point of the cheesy story he had begun with was made clear: "When seas get rough, don't forget that a friendly German boat may be close. " His nautical metaphor acquired further resonance this week when floundering Brexiteers seized on Maas himself as the lifeboat coming to save them... <snip> It is hard to overstate the importance of this possibility in the minds of those who have driven the Brexit project. What they have always believed is that the EU is essentially a front for Germany. In the weird psychodrama that has been running in their heads, the Germans effectively reversed the result of the second World War. The EU allowed them to do by economic and political means what they had failed to do by military means: dominate and control Britain. But this dark fantasy has in their minds a happy ending: since the Germans really run the EU, the whole tedious business of negotiating with Brussels is a sham. In the end the deal will be done in Berlin. <snip> So all Britain has to do is hold its nerve up to and beyond a no-deal exit. Then the Germans will understand that the British pluck that saw them off in 1945 is still alive. They will issue the appropriate orders to their minions to drop the backstop and give Britain all the benefits of EU membership with none of the burdens.
As a joke they sent out a message that they were having a birthday party and all nearby ships were welcome to join. But, said Maas, a German yacht heard the words "Irish" and "party" and suddenly appeared alongside them, bringing a keg of beer.
So far, so toe-curling: Ireland, parties, beer. Was this cliched stuff really worth getting out of bed so early for? Except that Maas then went on to make a passionate defence of the Irish backstop to the withdrawal agreement between the UK and the EU, claiming the avoidance of a hard border not as an Irish issue but, remarkably, as "a question of identity for the European Union".
And in his peroration, the point of the cheesy story he had begun with was made clear: "When seas get rough, don't forget that a friendly German boat may be close. " His nautical metaphor acquired further resonance this week when floundering Brexiteers seized on Maas himself as the lifeboat coming to save them...
<snip>
It is hard to overstate the importance of this possibility in the minds of those who have driven the Brexit project. What they have always believed is that the EU is essentially a front for Germany. In the weird psychodrama that has been running in their heads, the Germans effectively reversed the result of the second World War.
The EU allowed them to do by economic and political means what they had failed to do by military means: dominate and control Britain. But this dark fantasy has in their minds a happy ending: since the Germans really run the EU, the whole tedious business of negotiating with Brussels is a sham. In the end the deal will be done in Berlin.
So all Britain has to do is hold its nerve up to and beyond a no-deal exit. Then the Germans will understand that the British pluck that saw them off in 1945 is still alive. They will issue the appropriate orders to their minions to drop the backstop and give Britain all the benefits of EU membership with none of the burdens.
Germany's BDI business group said Thursday it fears a "chaotic Brexit" is "dangerously close," and warned that such an outcome could dent German economic growth. "A chaotic Brexit is now getting dangerously close to happening," BDI President Dieter Kempf said in Berlin. "Companies are looking into the abyss in these times."
"A chaotic Brexit is now getting dangerously close to happening," BDI President Dieter Kempf said in Berlin. "Companies are looking into the abyss in these times."
and that the following also appeared in Politico - Merkel urges EU and UK to find Brexit compromise
"To the last day, I will work towards finding a treaty-based solution for a deal for the U.K.'s exit, and I will work towards having the best kind of relations afterward," she added.
"No Deal" is off the agenda on both sides of the channel, but not in Downing Street, nor in UK law as it currently stands?
Actually, they believed that already before the 2016 referendum, even Cameron, as argued here.
The main lesson is that they've been constantly misreading Germany, and still do: I saw a bit of BoJo on TV essentially promising that Germany would blink on the brink. Germany's message has always been consistent and is not going to change at the last minute.
German industry cannot save Britain from hard Brexit, warns Merkel - Torygraph - October 2016
German car makers and other major industrial lobbies will not be able to insist that Britain gets an easy deal in the forthcoming Brexit negotiations, the German chancellor Angela Merkel has warned. In a further hardening of the line against Britain, Mrs Merkel told the annual conference of German industrial federations, the BDI, that defending the principle of free movement and the internal cohesion of the European Union would come before defending German exports to the UK. "If we don't say full access to the internal market is linked to full freedom of movement, then a movement will spread in Europe where everyone just does whatever they want," she told business leaders in Berlin.
In a further hardening of the line against Britain, Mrs Merkel told the annual conference of German industrial federations, the BDI, that defending the principle of free movement and the internal cohesion of the European Union would come before defending German exports to the UK.
"If we don't say full access to the internal market is linked to full freedom of movement, then a movement will spread in Europe where everyone just does whatever they want," she told business leaders in Berlin.
PM May promised to be flexible in forthcoming plan B. Today she comes with more of the same.
EU wants PM May to alter her red lines.
Labour leader Corbyn wants PM May to drop no-deal option and to alter her red lines. Interesting for the Prime Minister to start her statement with an attack on the opposition leader Corbyn. Once again a show of Tory hate for the Labour leader.
IMO narrows PM May her choice to a no-deal or the EU-UK Withdrawal Agreement with an adjustment to the backstop clause to favor Tory hard Brexiteers and the DUP unionists. Once more walking blind-folded into a dead end street. Nothing surprises me anymore.
A second referendum will not happen. The Labour leader strives for a soft Brexit in a Single Market. Global Warming - distance between America and Europe is steadily increasing.
Pull the other one, laddie!
○ Brexit: The view from England's "Little Poland"
My earlier diary - UK Brexit Problem: Migration not Immigration [Jan. 2017].
An idle threat for Plexit to rattle fellow member states and Brussels ...
○ The proposed constitutional referendum questions
Rumsfeld's "New Europe" and the love for Poland from Trump and Netanyahu ...
○ Trump's Revival of anti-EU Sentiment in Warsaw ○ Xenophobia, Israel, Alt-right and the Jewish Question
After Brexit Europe will still be troubled by their new member states used as proxies to anger Russia. Global Warming - distance between America and Europe is steadily increasing.
Question: How would you comment on the media reports suggesting that it was Abigail McCourt, 16, who was the first to help Sergei and Yulia Skripal after they were poisoned? Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
There is a long-term crisis of belonging in the UK. Brexit is its most lurid symptom, but it is not a cure. Theresa May's appeal to the "precious, precious union" is mere denial about the rise of English identity. The hard Brexiteers, under the cover of nationalism, want to unleash an even more virulent form of globalisation that will destroy what is left of working-class communities. And yet these liars and fantasists have been allowed to own the most potent political emotions - collective pride, identity, belonging. The willingness to sacrifice economic comfort for a sense of the greater good or a higher ideal is not innately self-destructive. Nothing noble or decent is ever accomplished without it. The Right has turned it into a sharp blade and told people to cut themselves with it. Those people think they are making a sacrifice when they are merely being sacrificed. The Left has to speak, not just to their rational desire not to make themselves poorer, but to the bigger reasons why they don't think it's all about money.
And yet these liars and fantasists have been allowed to own the most potent political emotions - collective pride, identity, belonging. The willingness to sacrifice economic comfort for a sense of the greater good or a higher ideal is not innately self-destructive. Nothing noble or decent is ever accomplished without it. The Right has turned it into a sharp blade and told people to cut themselves with it. Those people think they are making a sacrifice when they are merely being sacrificed. The Left has to speak, not just to their rational desire not to make themselves poorer, but to the bigger reasons why they don't think it's all about money.
This was almost exactly the same rural vote that gave Trump the Presidency, an entire segment of the elctorate who have been abandoned by most domestic politicians of all parties; Thatcher, Major, Blair, Brown and then Cameron had absolutely no concern for these people at all.
People who might, a generation or two ago, have had appreticeships and gained skills, peer respect and decent wages, who might have aspired to buy a house or at least a half decent council house, a car. But those jobs, those opportunities have gone, they resent having to compete for the shitty jobs, they resent that benefits that might once have enabled them to retain a certain status and dignity have been withdrawn, that they have to crawl and lick spit to get the right to queue up at the food bank.
And every (tabloid) newspaper they read tells them that it'sBrussels and the metropolitan elites who are to blame for it for brining in people who are stealing their jobs.
And then Cameron and Osborne, almost the poster boys for remote posh boys who laugh and scorn the precariat and working classes, give them a chance, in their arrogance, to kick back at the lot of them. And are then surprised when they take that chance to give it to them right in the nuts.
this wasn't people voting against their financial interests, this was people who didn't think they had anything to lose keep to the Fen Causeway
I used to live in the heart of shire country and many of my horsey neighbours voted for Brexit. I heard "But shouldn't we believe in Britain?" from them long before it became a Leaver catchphrase. The vote split the village as it did the country.
Having moved here, I've realised something interesting - the UK has no future. I mean it literally has no vision for where it wants to be ten, never mind fifty, years from now.
Europe does have a vision. You can - and probably should - argue with the details, but there's a sense that there's some sort of goal, and it may even be modestly humane one, as opposed to the excuse for outright narcissism and banditry that the US tries to sell as capitalism.
The UK only has nostalgia. The present is awful, the future is incomprehensible, so let's relive our heroic WWII victory, and hurrah for Magna Carta.
To a large extent, British identity is defined by nostalgia. It's all castles and cosy cottages - Victorian this, Georgian that, and Tudor everything else.
If you take away the UK's history you're left with a damp and rather windswept island with no idea what it wants to be when it grows up.
This was a problem in the 70s when the UK was floundering around, but Thatcher's solution made it far worse, by using the nostalgia in a very calculated way to disguise the values at the heart of the British establishment - war, violence, slavery, and fraud.
So of course the peasants are angry - and of course it's easy to make them believe Europe is the problem.
The country may or may not pull out of this Brexit tail spin in time, but it's going to take a much bigger change to give it a future.
Now we're down to the nostalgic costume drama and bellicose nationalism; rapacious disaster capitalism, exploitative marketing and fraudulent "service" industries. Much of the infrastructure and larger more successful businesses are foreign owned - many with no absolute requirement to stay in Britain.
Something has changed, and it is more than the decline of empire. The moneyed can live out their lives in the style to which they have become accustomed. The royal family and the soaps on TV can provide the circuses for the masses. But who is going to provide the bread? Index of Frank's Diaries
EU published two [WTO 'reform'] proposals, one issued jointly with India, China,Canada, Norway, New Zealand, Switzerland, Australia, South Korea, Iceland, Singapore and Mexico, Nov 2018 UK not Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
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ARTICLE 3, Territorial Scope, ¶ 1, final draft 17 Nov 2018
(e) the overseas countries and territories listed in Annex II to the TFEU having special relations with the United Kingdom1, where the provisions of this Agreement relate to the special arrangements for the association of the overseas countries and territories with the Union. (d) the Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia in Cyprus, to the extent necessary to ensure the implementation of the arrangements set out in the Protocol on the Sovereign Base Areas of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland in Cyprus annexed to the Act concerning the conditions of accession of the Czech Republic, the Republic of Estonia, the Republic of Cyprus, the Republic of Latvia, the Republic of Lithuania, the Republic of Hungary, the Republic of Malta, the Republic of Poland, the Republic of Slovenia and the Slovak Republic to the European Union; [...] 1. Anguilla, Bermuda, British Antarctic Territory, British Indian Ocean Territory, British Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands, Falkland Islands, Montserrat, Pitcairn, Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha, South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands, and Turks and Caicos Islands.
1. Anguilla, Bermuda, British Antarctic Territory, British Indian Ocean Territory, British Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands, Falkland Islands, Montserrat, Pitcairn, Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha, South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands, and Turks and Caicos Islands.
ARTICLE 2 -- Customs territory of the Union [...] All goods intended for use in the Sovereign Base Areas shall enter the island of Cyprus through the civilian airports and seaports of the Republic of Cyprus, and all customs formalities, customs controls and collection of import duties related to them shall be carried out by the authorities of the Republic of Cyprus. All goods intended for export shall exit the island of Cyprus through the civilian airports and seaports of the Republic of Cyprus and all customs export formalities and customs controls related to them shall be carried out by the authorities of the Republic of Cyprus.
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