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'Sapere aude'
by Oui (Oui) on Sat Oct 12th, 2019 at 07:43:51 AM EST
Sure they do. Here are two more.

House Committee on Rules
Majority party in this chamber makes its rules. The majority can and does change rules at any time in committee, often ratified by quorum.
Senate Committee on Rules and Administration
Majority party in this chamber makes its rules. The majority can and does change rules at any time in committee, often ratified by quorum.

Referring to 45-year-old house or senate rules (1974, 1998) for guidance to impeachment procedure (2019) is nonsensical. The majority party in the house can define "high crimes and misdemeanors" (articles of impeachment) however they want. The US constitution does not require the senate to proceed from referral of articles by the house. Also, impeachment is not a trial. It's a morality play for public consumption. I for one have been looking forward to the curtain rising since 1 Jan 2019.

How do legislators of the Netherlands remove a PM from office? Does the assembly form a committee to draft rules of order once per GE or each session? Or are such rules codified in the constitution of the Netherlands?

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Sat Oct 12th, 2019 at 09:29:20 AM EST
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Impeach Pence first

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Sun Oct 13th, 2019 at 08:42:39 PM EST
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You all remember the 2006 House Rules, dontcha.
A Democrat-controlled House wouldn't impeach, Pelosi says, 13 May 2006
Pelosi, who Republicans have charged intends to lead an impeachment effort, dismissed the idea when she spoke Wednesday morning at a closed-door caucus of the House's 201 Democrats. Pelosi also restated her opposition to the idea of censuring Bush over his decision to invade Iraq in March 2003.
Pelosi, who is likely to become the first female House speaker if the Democrats win in November, has been FORCED to strike a delicate balance between her party's left, where the idea of impeaching Bush has found a positive reception, and moderates who say raising the issue would repel voters in the swing districts that Democrats must win to regain the House majority they lost in 1994.

Pelosi already had been cool to a House resolution that calls for creating a special House committee to investigate the administration,

[2006LaRouchhub FFS] Congressman Conyers, who will take over the House Judiciary Committee, the traditional prime mover in impeachment proceedings, is also well prepared to proceed with assembling the evidence required for impeachment. On Aug. 4, 2006, he released a 350-page report, entitled "Constitution in Crisis," in which he identified 26 laws and regulations which the Bush Administration may have violated, matters which he insisted should be taken up by the Congress as a whole, in fulfillment of its responsibilities to the American people and the Constitution.

Conyers's report, by his own testimony, was the result of reviewing tens of thousands of documents and materials, including testimony submitted at two hearings; hundreds of media reports, including interviews with Administration officials; scores of government reports; relevant laws and administrative guidelines; and the Administration's own statements.

proceedings that could lead to Bush's impeachment over such issues as prewar intelligence and warrantless eavesdropping on Americans' phone calls.
"In the Capitol basement yesterday, long-suffering House Democrats took a trip to the land of make-believe," Milbank wrote. "They pretended a small conference room was the Judiciary Committee hearing room, draping white linens over folding tables to make them look like witness tables and bringing in cardboard name tags and extra flags to make the whole thing look official."

And the insults - especially aimed at Rep. Conyers - just kept on coming. The Michigan Democrat "banged a large wooden gavel and got the other lawmakers to call him `Mr. Chairman,'" the snide article said. [For the full flavor, see the Washington Post's "Democrats Play House To Rally Against the War," June 17, 2005]

The issue resurfaced after Pelosi appeared Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press." Host Tim Russert pressed her on Conyers' push for his impeachment resolution, notable because as the ranking minority Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, Conyers is in line to become committee chairman next year if the Democrats pick up the 15 seats they need to win a House majority.

Russert asked her: "Is impeachment off the table?"

Pelosi said, "Well, you never know where the facts take you, but -- for any president -- but that isn't what we're about. What we're about is going there and having high ethical standards, fiscal soundness and a level of civility that brushes away all this fierce partisanship."

Pelosi: 'Impeachment is off the table', 22 Oct 2006
"Yes, it is a pledge," she said. "Of course it is."

Pelosi called impeachment "a waste of time," and suggested Republicans -- who have controlled the House for 12 years -- would make political hay out of it if Democrats tried to impeach Bush.

"Wouldn't they just love it if we came in and our record as Democrats coming forth after 12 years is to talk about George Bush and Dick Cheney? This election is about them. This is a referendum on them. Making them lame ducks is good enough for me."

Pelosi: Bush Impeachment 'Off the Table', 8 Nov 2006
"I have said it before and I will say it again: Impeachment is off the table," Pelosi, D-Calif., said during a news conference.
"Democrats pledge civility and bipartisanship in the conduct of the work here and we pledge partnerships with Congress and the Republicans in Congress, and the president -- not partisanship."
She also extended an olive branch to Bush on the war in Iraq, saying she plans to work with him on a new plan but will not support the current strategy and supports beginning redeployment of troops by the end of the year. Pelosi also said she supports the idea of a bipartisan summit on the war.
Conyers and Feingold Announce Judiciary Hearings on Bush Admistration Policy in Both Senate and House, 26 Jan 2007: "Neither of the Constitutionally mandated oversight hearings will be held in a basement broom closet, but rather in proper Congressional Hearing Rooms."
House Sends Impeachment to John Conyers, 11 June 2008: "By a bipartisan vote of 251-166, the full House of Representatives sent Dennis Kucinich's 35 Articles of Impeachment to the Judiciary Committee."
HOLD THE PHONE ... christ Obama and Panic of '08 called.
Conyers Explains Why He Didn't Push Impeachment, January 2009
While Nancy Pelosi swore she would never impeach in May 2006 in response to a statement from the Republican National Committee, Conyers continued to hedge and fudge and prevaricate enough that a great many people worked hard to elect Democrats they disliked to Congress, in hopes that Conyers would become chair of the Judiciary Committee and impeach.
Speaker of the house handed over the gavel to Conyers when?

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Sun Oct 13th, 2019 at 10:47:35 PM EST
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Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Wed Oct 16th, 2019 at 02:40:33 AM EST
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Profiles in No Courage
by das monde on Wed Oct 16th, 2019 at 08:29:43 AM EST
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