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by Cat on Thu Feb 21st, 2019 at 08:22:13 AM EST
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Unilever Dove® soap endorsement deals for
Multi-millionaire celebrities
(jealousy, envy: common spelling errors)
Presidential candidates
"making the rules of business better for employees and consumers"
by Cat on Thu Feb 21st, 2019 at 09:01:44 AM EST
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race-baiting electioneering getting ripe
22 Feb, New Hamshire: Sen. Warren: US needs to address 'ugly history of racism'
Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who said earlier this week that she supports reparations for black Americans who have been affected by slavery, told reporters Friday that the nation needs to confront its "ugly history of racism" and "talk about the right way to address it and make change."
Warren was asked later whether she would include Native Americans in her support for reparations. She responded: "I think it's a part of the conversation. It's an important part of the conversation."
Reporters pivot to "all lives matter".
Warren said her plan would give all families access to the kind of child care the federal government currently provides military families.
26 Feb, national: Democratic hopefuls embrace new meaning of reparations for slave descendants
Over the past week, Sen. Kamala Harris of California, Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts and former Housing and Urban Development Secretary Julián Castro spoke of the need for the U.S. government to reckon with and make up for centuries of stolen labor and legal oppression. But instead of backing the direct compensation of African-Americans for the legacy of slavery, the Democratic candidates are talking about using tax credits and other subsidies.
In terms of a direct payment, reparations could be a tough political sell. In a Point Taken-Marist poll conducted in 2016, 68 percent of Americans said the country should not pay cash reparations to African-American descendants of slaves. About 8 in 10 white Americans said they were opposed to reparations, while about 6 in 10 black Americans said they were in favor.
Sanders: "What does that mean?"

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by Cat on Tue Feb 26th, 2019 at 10:36:30 PM EST
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Pelosi says she supports bill to study issue of reparations for slavery
not a co-sponsor
"'so while we're studying how we deal with the reparations issue, there's plenty we can do to improve the quality of life of many people in our country,' she said."
no related senate bill

H.R.40- Commission to Study and Develop Reparation Proposals for African-Americans Act
Sponsor: Rep. Conyers, John, Jr. [D-MI-13] (Introduced 01/03/2017)
Latest Action: House - 03/08/2018 ASSUMING FIRST SPONSORSHIP - Ms. Jackson Lee asked unanimous consent that she may hereafter be considered as the first sponsor of H.R. 40, a bill originally introduced by former Representative Conyers, for purposes of adding cosponsors and requesting reprintings pursuant to clause 7 of rule XII. Agreed to without objection.
Advocacy group calls for meeting with Harris over decriminalizing sex work
"She previously told The Root in an interview that she does support the decriminalization of sex work when questioned on the subject ...
For reparations, Harris said she supports the Lift Act, which would provide a tax credit for all families making up to $100,000.
... Harris also noted her support for the Stop Enabling Sex Traffickers Act (SESTA). "

archived What time is it?
S.3712 - LIFT (Livable Incomes for Families Today) the Middle Class Act
"Kamala Harris tax cut plan: the LIFT Act, explained - Vox"

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Thu Feb 28th, 2019 at 05:21:40 AM EST
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Bernie Sanders declines to back reparations
I bet he co-signs the LIFT Act. < wipes tears > Or "lifts" parts of it to roll into a Childcare-Medicare Improvement Act.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Fri Mar 1st, 2019 at 10:40:27 PM EST
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What nobody, well, no white people, wants to acknowledge is reparations - is the figure still $1.7 trillion? - is not only the right thing to do it would also be a major boost to the economy.  Spread out over 10 year it would be $170 billion which in a $19.3 trillion dollar economy and $3.8 trillion federal budget is doable.  

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Sat Mar 2nd, 2019 at 02:13:58 AM EST
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How do you put a dollar number on a century of slavery? And another century of rampant discrimination? Not to mention all the other bad stuff. How do you put a number on takings of Native American land, and (ongoing) treaty-breaking? Reparations for the Jews who couldn't get into Harvard in the 1930s? Women's work stolen? Etc.

I think this approach tends to lead to the sort of argument that goes on in the Middle East, where insults suffered thousands of years ago are part of the ongoing debate. Better to take immediate action on today's problems rather than try to retroactively fix the past.


by asdf on Sat Mar 2nd, 2019 at 02:30:09 AM EST
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I rather prefer universalist solutions. Both Kamala Harris and Sanders push universalist plans. Singling out Native Americans or Afro-Americans for reparations can prove divisive. I agree with ATinNM that such a plan would be stimulative and affordable, but I would prefer solutions such as the Job Guarantee. But there is no reason we cannot do some of both. I think such an approach might be politically more acceptable.

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by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Mar 2nd, 2019 at 04:42:12 AM EST
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case CLOSED!

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by Cat on Sat Mar 2nd, 2019 at 05:22:45 AM EST
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Yes, that is exactly the "justice claim" to restitution of unpaid labor that descendants of US chattel slavery demand. This origin story is exactly what distinguishes this demographic group's trajectory over time from all other claims of discriminatory effects on "opportunity" and capital formation. A lot of Americans cannot wrap their imaginations around the size of the loss of wealth (credit) transferred directly and inherited by successive waves of "capitalists" and "entrepreneurs" and immigrants who exploited each other to accumulate even more capital --social, political, and ahh intellectual-- for themselves. FYIGM, right?

Please, note, the US government recognizes its duty as custodian of the several sovereign native american nations. That relationship has always been and is hostile, no doubt, but permits capital, social, racial integration and legal recourse that US blacks have been denied.

Please, note, Holocaust survivors, their children, and their children's children has been quite successful obtaining recognition of "justice claims" and remittance from various governments as well vigilant defense of that group's capital, social, religious integration.

There are differences in perceived legitimacy of justice in US hierarchy. Since few people in the US, in the world, even recognize the material value of slave labor, reparations due US slaves and their "survivors" is abstract in the extreme. Thanks for all the fish! Once a year politicians and school children will light a candle for "The Civil Rights" struggle, dilute "affirmative action" remedies, and flaunt the diversity of stigma that unite All Americans seeking their Potentials to the Fullest.

So "today's problem" for the majority of US blacks (notably, not immigrant African Americans) has been and is destitution, enforced by systematic deprivation of their political and property rights by US government policies over multiple generations. There is a significant body of economic research that quantifies the current, dismal living conditions of this permanent caste, in aggregate, by every measure that "matters" in the World's Richest Country.

Direct payments to ADOS (lately designated divisive, co-conspirators of Russian agitators on social media "platforms") households and and Direct Domestic Investment in business owned/operated by ADOS would be a secure, reliable source of political stability at "the bottom of the well".

I'll be dead and goddamed before that happens.
just sayin'.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Sat Mar 2nd, 2019 at 05:16:55 AM EST
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I think this approach tends to lead to the sort of argument that goes on in the Middle East

There are no "arguments" in the Middle East. People are at war over land and sovereignty claims, conflicts fomented by you-know-who.

Demand for restitution of unpaid labor by ADOS from US gov (not you personally, geddit?) is not analogous to war in the ME.

First, ADOS are US citizens and the principle conflict behind paying off that big ass torts claim is choosing between Ideal Victims or DOD budget.

I repeat: There is a significant body of research on economic losses --in aggregate-- attributed to slave labor, Reconstruction-era False Claims, peonage labor, land seizures, and systematic denial of public services, financing, and foreclosures by US agencies (VA, SSA, FHA, etc) by race --collated.

Besides, the evidence is all around you, FFS.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Sat Mar 2nd, 2019 at 05:47:43 AM EST
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An off-line source has pointed me to an example of such a calculation.


by asdf on Sat Mar 2nd, 2019 at 02:37:38 PM EST
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Curse of the Mummy
Many Democrats took it as an unmistakable swipe at Hillary Clinton, who lost that battleground state after never appearing there during the 2016 general election campaign. The jab ricocheted across the internet, enraging Clinton admirers and earning Ms. Klobuchar attention as a Midwesterner willing to speak hard truths.

But behind the scenes, Ms. Klobuchar of Minnesota sprang into damage control mode, firing off an email to Mrs. Clinton. In a phone call that soon followed, she apologized and said her off-the-cuff remark had been misinterpreted, according to people familiar with the episode.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Tue Feb 26th, 2019 at 11:33:39 PM EST
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