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I don't get this "taking no deal off the table reduces our negotiating leverage" crap. From an EU point of view a no deal Brexit is looking increasingly preferable to dealing with May/ERG/DUP.

And the UK better believe No deal Means No Deal. The EU won't be rushing to cuts deals after a no deal Brexit either, except where they are very clearly in the EU's own self interest. MEGA - Make Europe Great again!

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Sun Feb 24th, 2019 at 12:06:39 PM EST
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the hard brexiteers are terrified they won't get the no deal of their hearts desire and so are inventing all sorts of nonsense to justify it

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Feb 24th, 2019 at 05:46:21 PM EST
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You posted this clear, brilliant-as-crystal explanation of the actual balance of powers at gov.uk
You must understand that the Government controls all business in Parliament. No bill is discussed without its consent, no vote is meaningful unless the government wishes to adhere to it.

Opposition parties cannot propose anything, they cannot make law. they cannot force a new referendum, they cannot even influence the wording os said referendum.

this is why I have never understood all the noise in the media about Corbyn and what he thinks about brexit. His opinions are irrelevant, his desire, for or against a referendum, is irrelevant.

So the independent group can't achieve anything, except make lots of noise in the media (which appear to be the only group that takes them seriously). Their only ambition seems to be to ensure that the Labour party is weakened

Stand by it. Do not yield to temptation to psychoanalyze 300 MPs. That way lies a madding crowd, not "democracy."

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Sun Feb 24th, 2019 at 06:57:00 PM EST
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The Times has gone all-in against May and printed one of the nastiest and most accurate character assassinations of a politician in recent history, calling her the Death Star of British politics - someone who has no interest in, or any respect for any opinion other than her own.

May is simply a rather dim middle-shire xenophobe who epitomises "I'm British, I know what's what, and no one tells me what to do."

I'm sure she's being paid to push Brexit as a useful idiot. But I'm also sure that she sees it as a personal project. In order to prove to herself that she's a somebody rather than a nobody, Brexit must happen on schedule, no matter the cost.

If it kills her party, Parliament, and the country - so be it.

No lie and no manipulation is beyond the pale in pursuit of this glorious goal.

So yes - it's crap, as is virtually everything else she has said or done. And crap is all we'll ever get from her.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sun Feb 24th, 2019 at 08:31:48 PM EST
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since her legacy will live on in the history books.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Sun Feb 24th, 2019 at 10:19:04 PM EST
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Times or sunday Times? Is that an editorial? I may go to the library tomorrow just to read that

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Feb 24th, 2019 at 10:20:07 PM EST
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Matthew Parris in the Sunday Times: Theresa May is the Death Star of British Politics.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sun Feb 24th, 2019 at 10:56:23 PM EST
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I wish Matthew Parris would get off the fence and tell us what he really thinks of Theresa May...

Theresa May is the Death Star of British politics

Time and again I've protested that she may not be the answer but she didn't create this mess: she's just an unimaginative, unremarkable, perhaps wooden but dogged politician, overly cautious and rather shy. Time and again my informants -- MPs, former MPs, civil servants, special advisers -- tell me, eyes flashing, that I've got it wrong and the public have it wrong, and she's so much worse than that. She's not normal. She's extraordinary. Extraordinarily uncommunicative; extraordinarily rude in the way she blanks people, ideas and arguments. To my surprise there is no difference between the pictures of her that Remainers and Brexiteers paint.

Theresa May, they tell me (in a couple of cases actually shouting) is the Death Star of modern British politics. She's the theory of anti-matter, made flesh. She's a political black hole because nothing, not even light, can escape. Ideas, beliefs, suggestions, objections, inquiries, proposals, projects, loyalties, affections, trust, whole careers, real men and women, are sucked into the awful void that is Downing Street -- and nothing ever comes out: no answers, only a blank so blank that it screams. Reputations (they lament) are staked on her, and lost. Warnings are delivered to her, and ignored. Plans are run by her, unacknowledged. Messages are sent to her, unanswered. She has become the unperson of Downing Street: the living embodiment of the closed door.

And I am, finally, persuaded. Persuaded that Theresa May has not simply failed to unite two wings of my party, but that her premiership has driven them apart, into anger and despair; helped to turn a disagreement into a schism. Before healing becomes possible (one told me) she, and all who wait upon her and have surrounded her, must be hounded out of the party's cockpit, and every trace of the era of her leadership expunged. Another, careless of the proprieties, told me the political massacre should be on a Rwandan scale. For the first time I understood the passion, if not the logic, behind the self-defeating challenge to her leadership the Brexiteers mounted last December.



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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Sun Feb 24th, 2019 at 11:33:19 PM EST
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soooo separated at birth from Arlene

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by Cat on Sun Feb 24th, 2019 at 11:37:31 PM EST
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Dear Arlene is but the village idiot to May's Death Star...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon Feb 25th, 2019 at 12:53:22 PM EST
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To my surprise there is no difference between the pictures of her that Remainers and Brexiteers paint.

So she's the epitome of The Middle Way.

by rifek on Thu Mar 7th, 2019 at 05:16:32 PM EST
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