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A series of Brexit votes have taken place in the Commons:

    On Tuesday, MPs rejected Mrs May's withdrawal agreement for a second time by 149 votes

    On Wednesday, MPs voted to reject the idea of the UK leaving the EU without a deal under any circumstances

    Then, on Thursday, the Commons voted by 413 to 202 to seek an extension to Article 50 - the legal mechanism by which the UK is due to leave the EU

However, as things stand, the law has not been changed, as Wednesday and Thursday's votes were not legally binding.

That means the UK is still set to leave on 29 March - with or without a deal.

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She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Fri Mar 15th, 2019 at 05:38:17 PM EST
Yep a lot of faffing around or sturm und drang signifying not very much.  The ball is still in May's court. She's talking to the DUP trying to get them to support her deal. No idea what her plan B is, beyond looking for an A.50 extension for about 3 Months. The EU should insìst on this being conditional on the UK holding EP elections.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Fri Mar 15th, 2019 at 06:37:03 PM EST
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Eurointelligence today:

there will be a third meaningful vote on Tuesday, but with the added twist that Theresa May is explicitly using the European elections as a weapon - possibly her most potent one yet. A long delay including European elections would be a nightmare for the Tory eurosceptics, and a boon to the new Brexit party. It is also a nightmare for the EU. It falls into the "be careful what you wish for" category.

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Donald Tusk (...) dangled a long extension with the ease of a man who will not have to clean up the mess. We suspect the members of the European Council will be a little less gung-ho about this when they consider the consequences of the UK participating in the elections. No matter what the election outcome will be, the UK will not dispatch MEPs who will support Manfred Weber for the Commission presidency. And do the other leaders really want Brexit to dominate their own election campaign? It would be a gift to all populist parties on the continent. And it will give us another five years of Nigel Farage in Brussels.

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The threat of holding European elections is probably May's most important weapon in the days ahead.

The EU insists on EP elections as a condition for an extension; May tells the ultra-Brexiters it's my deal or EP elections; the ERGers finally come to heel on meaningless vote N° 4, or thereabouts. Meanwhile the DUP has been bought with lashings of lolly. May's deal scrapes through the all-sovereign parliament.

May's plan A, or B, or X. It might work.

I used to be afew. I'm still not many.

by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Fri Mar 15th, 2019 at 09:36:02 PM EST
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My expectation has always been that the Brexiteers will gradually come on board as their prospects of a no deal Brexit fade. What I am less sure of is whether Tory Remainers will come on board when their prospects of a second referendum improve, and when all the attention (and bribes) is going the way of the Brexiteers. The final uncertainty is around how many Labour MPs might end up disobeying the party whip and supporting May's deal. My guess is, not many. May's attempts at bribing them have been a bit maladroit.

May will have to get a lot of disparate groups on Board to get the numbers she needs. So far there is little evidence her team have the skills and firepower required.

I'm not sure about the EP elections analysis above. Early reports suggest Farage and UKIP are keen to contest, but they may do rather less well than they expect. I don't see a lot of Remainer MEPs as a problem for Weber. I would have thought Brexit as an election issue would not be for the benefit of Eurosceptic parties elsewhere.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Fri Mar 15th, 2019 at 10:14:01 PM EST
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It's all just a shadow puppet play at this point.  It will take major political whip-cracking just to get Parliament to vote for an extension, but the EU has said an extension request will need to be accompanied by an explanation of what the extension is for (and it would be contrary to the EU's interest to reverse on this point), and there ain't no way in Hooterville a majority of the Commons will agree on a reason for an extension.
by rifek on Sat Mar 16th, 2019 at 04:21:41 AM EST
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Eurointelligence (permalink):
And it will give us another five years of Nigel Farage in Brussels.

A powerful deterrent if there ever was one.
by Bernard on Sat Mar 16th, 2019 at 11:35:03 AM EST
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needs a clown...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Sat Mar 16th, 2019 at 11:54:49 AM EST
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Nigel Farage leads pro-Brexit march to London
A small group of Brexiteers are marching (and taking the bus) to London to voice their outrage at British lawmakers. Nigel Farage is leading the group but has admitted he'll only cover a third of the trek.
by Bernard on Sun Mar 17th, 2019 at 12:53:37 PM EST
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He was, of course, lying. He'd never get through 90 miles.

I used to be afew. I'm still not many.
by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Sun Mar 17th, 2019 at 08:13:58 PM EST
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In fairness, he has remarkable stamina. He will keep on walking for as long as there is a camera on him, and if it takes 90 miles to do 90 interviews he will probably do it. The guy lives on the adrenalin of attention.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Sun Mar 17th, 2019 at 11:48:23 PM EST
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I'll willingly hold the camera.

Just to see how many rests, pint-stops, days off, sleep-ins and calls for medical attention he totalises before dropping dead from exhaustion.

I used to be afew. I'm still not many.

by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Mon Mar 18th, 2019 at 07:09:16 AM EST
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Mussolini, of course, saw well to not waste his energy during the March on Rome in 1922. He joined his goons only on the very last leg. It might have been his bone spurs.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Mon Mar 18th, 2019 at 10:50:07 AM EST
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Of course that has been Farage's dastardly plan all along - make them hate him so much they will give him the Brexit he so dearly wants... just to get rid of him. He should be sentenced to sit in the European Parliament (without speaking rights) forever.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon Mar 18th, 2019 at 12:53:08 PM EST
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I wonder if she has a plan B, or just assumes that if she is stubborn enough, things will go her way. Which is an excellent way of getting no deal Brexit by accident (because it is the default setting).
by fjallstrom on Sat Mar 16th, 2019 at 12:18:22 AM EST
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