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The BBC News channel does occasional "vox pop" pieces where they send a reporter to far flung places (outside the M25 in London) to find out what the local populace is thinking. I doubt their selection of which voices to broadcast is random. but some are amusing or instructive anyway.

Interviewing a conservative looking Brexit supporting lady she pronounced herself as "losing the will to live" at all the procrastination and delay and feeling embarrassed that her government was making them "look foolish" around the world.

To the casual eye she reeked of self-entitlement and innate superiority, but I suspect she spoke for many now that a second season of the Brexit series seems all but guaranteed. Even if she is a hardened Tory party supporter I suspect she will vote UKIP or Brexit party if she bothers to vote at all.

But who will vote Tory party other than a few party loyalists, establishment types and sympathisers for Theresa May's predicament? To most conservatives she is damaged goods, yesterday's woman, and the cause of their embarrassment.

Added to the fact that most Tories think the EP elections shouldn't be happening anyway, oppose a second referendum, and just want the the government to "get on with it (Brexit)", it is hard to imagine the Tory vote doing anything other than implode.

My 15% prediction could even be generous...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Sun Apr 14th, 2019 at 03:23:10 PM EST
Conservative voters - and MPs - are far beyond any kind of rationality at this point.

I've just watched a lifelong Tory on FB complaining about police cuts. There's no point explaining that it was the Tories who cut the police, just as they promised to.

He says the Tories aren't perfect. But still - why was the number of officers cut? He's quite unhappy about this.

But still supports the Tories.

The most depressing thing about Brexit has been realising just how many utter idiots live in the UK. These people might as well be cognitively handicapped. They simply cannot understand how the world around them works, how causes lead to effects, or how being British doesn't mean they can't get whatever they want just because they want it.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sun Apr 14th, 2019 at 06:54:18 PM EST
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The name "Tory" is derived from a Middle Irish word tóraidhe; modern Irish tóraí; modern Scottish Gaelic Tòraidh: outlaw, robber or brigand, from the Irish word tóir, meaning "pursuit", since outlaws were "pursued men". It seems an apt etymological origin for the party and its membership. The mystery is how men of such character ended up becoming the ruling caste of the UK. Something to do with the manner in which the British aristocracy were formed through the crucible of armed conflict no doubt. The 100 year anniversary of Amritsar comes to mind... though in that case, only one side was armed.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Sun Apr 14th, 2019 at 08:30:26 PM EST
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Well, both Tory and Whig were originally terms of disparagement, but, by the 18th century had been adopted as badges of honor by their respective, respectable members and each had their own coffee houses as well. The Tories were the part of King and country, meaning the landed gentlemen, while the Whigs were the party of commerce. Tories were Anglican while dissidents flocked to the Whigs, who were more 'ecumenical'. The Liberals were the descendants of the Whigs, but they were eclipsed by Labour in the 20th Century. Meanwhile the Tories have remained in the 18th Century in spirit.
 

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by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Apr 15th, 2019 at 05:00:35 AM EST
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The most depressing thing about Brexit has been realising just how many utter idiots live in the UK. These people might as well be cognitively handicapped. They simply cannot understand how the world around them works, how causes lead to effects, or how being British doesn't mean they can't get whatever they want just because they want it.

Succinct statement of the dynamic of Fascism being the failure mode of liberal democracy.  There's always some Social Dominant running around using this as the basis to claw into power.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Mon Apr 15th, 2019 at 04:33:17 PM EST
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