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I am an optimist at heart, but do you really think corbyn will prioritise eu reform?

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon Apr 8th, 2019 at 01:27:17 PM EST
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Corbyn doesn't have to.
All you need is some reform-minded Labour MEPs. Brussels is another dimension.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Mon Apr 8th, 2019 at 04:14:07 PM EST
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Ok, you win. In the sprit of collegiality I will amend the diary text as advised.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon Apr 8th, 2019 at 05:09:53 PM EST
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What's on their EU reform agenda in the EP?

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by Cat on Mon Apr 8th, 2019 at 06:03:37 PM EST
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To be invented, like a lot of the (lack of) UK thinking on the EU. The main left wing objections to the EU are the EU prohibitions on state aids to private companies - as likely to lead to "unfair" competition within the Single Market. Left wingers also criticise the EU's role in facilitating globalisation and not taxing and regulating global corporates enough. (Whether small nation states could, acting individually, do this any more effectively is an interesting question.

Restrictions on state deficits and the tendency to impose pro-cyclical austerity when economic growth (and tax revenues) decline would be another common (Keynesian) criticism, particularly as those restrictions are encoded in Maastricht Treaty. The Eurozone is particularly criticised for its Germanic obsession with balanced budgets and debt repayment - when there are structural imbalances within the Eurozone which are never addressed.

However the UK isn't part of the Eurozone, and Tory UK governments have been to the fore in facilitating globalisation and austerity policies. Inequality is at least as big a problem in the UK as elsewhere, and again, it is an interesting question whether this could be addressed any more effectively with the UK outside the EU.

Corbyn is an internationalist, and so I have always been a bit puzzled at his anti-EU stances over the decades. Whatever the faults of the EU, arguably its worst traits have been driven by the UK. Re-erecting trade barriers, restricting migration, and reducing co-operation between governments seems a strange way of achieving progressive goals.

Contrary to some myths, the EU does not stand in the way of implementing Labour's 2017 election manifesto. There is no reason, for example, why Labour could not re-nationalise UK railways within the EU, afaik.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon Apr 8th, 2019 at 06:44:17 PM EST
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We've got a federal system over here that you can use as a model. Or not, as the case may be.
by asdf on Mon Apr 8th, 2019 at 06:54:38 PM EST
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Who would gain if Florida (say) seceded and erected a hard customs and immigration border at the Georgia and Alabama frontiers? Who would lose? And are there more losers than winners?

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon Apr 8th, 2019 at 07:18:05 PM EST
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Far more losers, and Florida would be driving the loser bus.  The place is nowhere near self-supporting.
by rifek on Tue Apr 9th, 2019 at 02:56:02 PM EST
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According to the principle of comparative advantage, both would lose.
by asdf on Tue Apr 9th, 2019 at 05:08:59 PM EST
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To my mind, the most significant, systematic developments in the concept of US federal authority were (1) banking regulation, through treasury rationalizing currencies in 19th century; (2) treasury rationalizing personal and corporate income tax collection from 19th fin de siècle to present; and (3) congress rationalizing myriad partisan patronage systems parties, begun by fin de siècle "reformers" and culminating in mid-20th century institution of FY grant making to states' legislatures: (a) categorical, (b) block, (c) earmark.

You see the motif imposed on generations of disaffected plebs.

By contrast, EU gov's transformation into a diabolical central, or supranational, bureaucracy is incomplete.


Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Thu Apr 11th, 2019 at 04:15:13 PM EST
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Oh the US system is a nightmare, no question about it. Largely because it was developed by a bunch of wealthy, idealistic aristocrats living in a pre-industrial agricultural economy. And they made the system hard to change.

On the other hand, we have managed to hold it together for 230 years so far, which is not too bad.

by asdf on Thu Apr 11th, 2019 at 08:35:23 PM EST
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What, you haven't read the agenda?

(or in pdf)
(Other languages available. Obviously. German Spanish Italian French Portugese and Greek)

(I hate it when people just turn up without having read the agenda!!)

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Tue Apr 9th, 2019 at 02:08:33 PM EST
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Our esteemed Editor, Melanchthon is running as a candidate for European Spring in the European Parliament elections. Hopefully he will write some campaign diaries for us.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Apr 9th, 2019 at 07:48:34 PM EST
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On Tuesday I learned that I, too, am on the list... One of our 12 candidates (of the 79 on the list) dropped out, so, days before the deadline, I'm sending in my administrative details today. I'm 77.

It just occurred to me that if the UK participates in these élections, I drop off again (only 74 French seats). Brexit is really getting personal for me.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Thu Apr 11th, 2019 at 06:54:23 AM EST
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No excuses now! You will still be expected to produce campaign diaries for Eurotrib even if you are dropped off the list! Given that the UK may still leave the EU at some stage, the number of French seats may still go back up to 79 again - with the extra five MEPs taking their seats when the UK drops out.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Thu Apr 11th, 2019 at 11:06:17 AM EST
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Do you get all the train tickets to Brussels you have to cancel because they keep not leaving reimbursed?
by generic on Thu Apr 11th, 2019 at 11:25:17 AM EST
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