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by asdf on Mon Apr 8th, 2019 at 06:54:38 PM EST
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Who would gain if Florida (say) seceded and erected a hard customs and immigration border at the Georgia and Alabama frontiers? Who would lose? And are there more losers than winners?

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon Apr 8th, 2019 at 07:18:05 PM EST
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Far more losers, and Florida would be driving the loser bus.  The place is nowhere near self-supporting.
by rifek on Tue Apr 9th, 2019 at 02:56:02 PM EST
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According to the principle of comparative advantage, both would lose.
by asdf on Tue Apr 9th, 2019 at 05:08:59 PM EST
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To my mind, the most significant, systematic developments in the concept of US federal authority were (1) banking regulation, through treasury rationalizing currencies in 19th century; (2) treasury rationalizing personal and corporate income tax collection from 19th fin de siècle to present; and (3) congress rationalizing myriad partisan patronage systems parties, begun by fin de siècle "reformers" and culminating in mid-20th century institution of FY grant making to states' legislatures: (a) categorical, (b) block, (c) earmark.

You see the motif imposed on generations of disaffected plebs.

By contrast, EU gov's transformation into a diabolical central, or supranational, bureaucracy is incomplete.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Thu Apr 11th, 2019 at 04:15:13 PM EST
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Oh the US system is a nightmare, no question about it. Largely because it was developed by a bunch of wealthy, idealistic aristocrats living in a pre-industrial agricultural economy. And they made the system hard to change.

On the other hand, we have managed to hold it together for 230 years so far, which is not too bad.

by asdf on Thu Apr 11th, 2019 at 08:35:23 PM EST
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