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Helen: And maybe we need to leave. There is a real crisis of political legitimacy in the country.

I don't quite see the connection there. Leaving isn't going to fix the problem of political legitimacy, unless you buy the raucous propaganda that says less than 52% is "the will of the people", and that the other half are not the people. You're not going to get any political legitimacy out of that deal.

There's a crisis of political legitimacy in France too, see gilets jaunes. Americans who support Trump reckon there's one in the US, too. We could list other "Western liberal democracies", Italy, for instance. But fixing the problem calls for changes in the system of political representation that would clear out the lobbies of the corporate rich and bring in the voices of the mass of people that are left out. In no way an entirely fabricated issue like "Leave" is going to do that. The unemployed of Merthyr or the Potteries will just get one more well-heeled kick in the teeth out of it.

Agreed, "Remain" isn't any more legitimate than "Leave" (fabricated issue etc...). But fixing the problem of political legitimacy in our worn-out democracies would mean a lot of hard, honest work, and no one in politics has been up for that for decades. (Minister, just go on mouthing the hollow words and making the customary gestures, and forget about the monster growing under your desk, OK?).

Add that neoliberalism has given us endless austerity, and you have the ideal conditions for the growth of fascism. "Leave" won't fix that.

I used to be afew. I'm still not many.

by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Sun May 19th, 2019 at 09:07:47 AM EST
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