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Yes, I agree that Johnston's plan will be to sell the Unionists down the river to achieve brexit. And, tbh it's the "sensible" solution, one that I imagine will attract enough Labour votes to get it through.

But I think that a few years, maybe even a decade of a post-brexit Ulster will convince a significant majority that their future lies in a united Ireland. The British economy will collapse and Westminster will no longer be able to indulge the tantrums of the DUP.

The nationalists can wait this one out

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jun 24th, 2019 at 06:02:29 PM EST
As Frank mentioned repeatedly, NI standards of living which were double of the Republic 40 years ago are now barely half. Fundamentalism has a cost.

Eventually adding NI to a re-unified Ireland, would be proportionally a much bigger effort than the German re-unification.

by Bernard on Mon Jun 24th, 2019 at 06:34:24 PM EST
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Well, we can hope NI isn't an endless vista of secret toxic waste dumps and industrial rubble.
by rifek on Mon Jun 24th, 2019 at 07:24:19 PM EST
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The "toxic waste dumps and industrial rubble" is mostly encapsulated in the sectarian "culture" of paramilitary gangs and the siege mentality of the communities which host them...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon Jun 24th, 2019 at 09:06:53 PM EST
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and Westminster will no longer be able to indulge the tantrums of the DUP.

May I suggest that the recent indulgence of the DUP is relatively small compared to the continuing annual "subsidy" needed to keep NI in the UK, one reason that Irish re-unification is unlikely to happen without equivalent subsidy from the EU - Dublin can't afford it.

From the UK Office of National Statistics - Country and regional public sector finances: financial year ending 2018 the Net fiscal deficit for Northern Ireland is about £9.17 Billion or £4939 per head of the NI population in year 2017/8.  

I am sure someone can find a way to express that on the side of a bus if the need arises.

You can check my interpretation, along with the (smaller) deficits for Wales, Scotland and the English regions, in Section 4 of the the ONS report

by oldremainmer48 on Tue Jun 25th, 2019 at 07:32:27 AM EST
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The most commonly quoted figure is c. 10 Billion, although there is some dispute as to how to calculate it most accurately. Either way it has probably reached £10 Billion by now, what with the DUP having negotiated an extra 1 Billion in subsidies for N. Ireland as part of their deal with the Conservatives - although apparently a lot of that is held up by the failure of the N. I. Legislative assembly which has been prorogued for over 2 years...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Jun 25th, 2019 at 12:01:44 PM EST
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Yes, but that was pre-brexit.

When the UK economy collapses taking sterling with it, I imagine that, even if the Treasury were willing to keep forking out £10 billion to sustain a failed colonial project, such will be the devaluation, that money will be signicantly reduced in value compared with the lost euro trade with the republic.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Jun 25th, 2019 at 12:30:06 PM EST
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