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After three wasted years, the real negotiations with the European Union will begin.

I'm probably mistaken, but isn't the EU team responsible for any such negotiations disbanded? Or at least on holiday? It might be a bit difficult for BoJo's hard-headed and serious negotiating team to find somebody to talk with.

But in any case, the good news is that the US of A is eager to help the UK after they leave the EU. We are ready to step into the breach and negotiate a sensational US-UK trade deal. We have the best negotiators, we have the best food and the best medicine and the best tariffs. Only the best, in fact!

Relationship with Trump will be 'sensational', says top diplomat

by asdf on Fri Jul 26th, 2019 at 03:30:16 PM EST
The negotiations on the Withdrawal Agreement took near on three years and were completed, the agreement drawn up and presented to the UK Parliament, that three times rejected it.

If the process is currently stalled, it's hardly the EU's fault.

Things are going to slide, slide in all directions
Won't be nothing
Nothing you can measure anymore
L. Cohen

by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Fri Jul 26th, 2019 at 04:27:19 PM EST
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Ah yes, but De Pfeffle isn't going to be talking to some jumped up bureaucrats in Brussels. His negotiating will be done with his peers - Trump, Merkel, Macron - perhaps at a conference similar to that at Yalta after the war - Churchill, Stalin, Roosevelt - where the spoils of Brexit will be divided, and the Irish will be so much collateral damage...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Fri Jul 26th, 2019 at 05:42:00 PM EST
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Am I wrong that this comment is somewhat tongue-in-cheek?

Things are going to slide, slide in all directions
Won't be nothing
Nothing you can measure anymore
L. Cohen
by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Fri Jul 26th, 2019 at 05:57:49 PM EST
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if he is, then comedy revelas a definite truth to the brexiteers mindset. Leavers have noted repeatedly that the Tories have tried to divide and rule the EU by going over the head of the Commission and speaking directly to the leaders of EU countries.

It's not worked yet, but they keep banging their head on the same wall

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jul 26th, 2019 at 06:56:18 PM EST
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All true.

Things are going to slide, slide in all directions
Won't be nothing
Nothing you can measure anymore
L. Cohen
by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Fri Jul 26th, 2019 at 07:39:52 PM EST
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Well how else can De Pfeffle emulate his idol Churchill...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Fri Jul 26th, 2019 at 09:19:15 PM EST
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Amazing idea, strictly neutral territory on the frontier between the EU/NATO and the democratic new republic of Russia 😣

Can resolve some local issues of piracy and prisoner exchange while the 3-some are at it. Sochi would be a bit contentious ...

Yalta beach

I'm certain the white man in his house in Washington DC would be jealous of Boris. Is there a golf course or was the last conference before the Eisenhower/Nixon ticket?

Global Warming - distance between America and Europe is steadily increasing.

by Oui on Fri Jul 26th, 2019 at 06:43:14 PM EST
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Trump, Merkel, Macron dividing up the spoils at Yalta is one thing, but I don't see why they would invite de Pfeffel??
by fjallstrom on Sun Jul 28th, 2019 at 09:58:32 AM EST
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The markets were relieved by the appointment of former Deutsche Bank Sajid Javid as finance chief. The pound held steady against the dollar and euro as traders waited for Johnson's first policy moves.
GBP:EUR

GBP:USD

Johnson boasts a friendship with Trump that his doubters criticise but supporters say could boost Britain's chances of clinching a post-Brexit trade deal with the United States.


Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Fri Jul 26th, 2019 at 06:03:18 PM EST
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`This is not about a return to empire' - US Congressman warns Johnson on Belfast Agreement - Irish Times
The head of the US congressional committee responsible for trade policy has warned Britain that a trade deal with the United States will not happen if the Belfast Agreement is jeopardised.

Representative Richard Neal said that Congress, and not the US president, writes trade agreements.

by Bernard on Wed Jul 31st, 2019 at 06:48:06 PM EST
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Congress, and not the US president, writes trade agreements.

Not really. See Articles I and II. Dude's grasp of US common law on this issue is as week as his grasp of "privacy" all the way up to the POTUS.

's all good. Entertainment from most ignorant, litigious nation on planet will ensue--culminating in "certainty," rule of law, executive enforcement and wtf.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Wed Jul 31st, 2019 at 07:17:17 PM EST
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Ways and Means "responsible" for trade policy ....

Indeed the executive does the trade negotiations:

Mission of USTR

Global Warming - distance between America and Europe is steadily increasing.

by Oui on Wed Jul 31st, 2019 at 07:35:04 PM EST
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Might de Pheffel have two brick walls to encounter?   (Guardian)

A lot depends on whether the Trump administraton can maintain that it has expedited authority to negotiate trade deals and that this authority includes any new deal with the UK. I don't know what that status is at present, but, with the Irish Question at the fore, Trump would find it hard to get such authority over the opposition of the Friends of Ireland caucus.

Any future US-UK trade deal would almost certainly be blocked by the US Congress if Brexit affects the Irish border and jeopardises peace in Northern Ireland, congressional leaders and diplomats have warned.

Boris Johnson has presented a trade deal with the US as a way of offsetting the economic costs of leaving the EU, and Donald Trump promised the two countries could strike "a very substantial trade agreement" that would increase trade "four or five times".

Trump, however, would not be able to push an agreement through a hostile Congress, where there would be strong bipartisan opposition to any UK trade deal in the event of a threat to the 1998 Good Friday agreement, and to the open border between Northern Ireland and the Republic.


Details of the opposition:
"The American dimension to the Good Friday agreement is indispensable," said Richard Neal, who is co-chair of the 54-strong Friends of Ireland caucus in Congress, and also chairs the powerful House ways and means committee, with the power to hold up a trade deal indefinitely.

"We oversee all trade agreements as part of our tax jurisdiction," Neal, a Democratic congressman from Massachusetts, said in a phone interview. He pointed out that such a complex trade deal could take four or five years, even without the Northern Ireland issue.

"I would have little enthusiasm for entertaining a bilateral trade agreement with the UK, if they were to jeopardise the agreement."

Pete King, the Republican co-chair of the Friends of Ireland group, said the threat to abandon the backstop and endanger the open border was a "needless provocation", adding that his party would have no compunction about defying Trump over the issue.

"I would think anyone who has a strong belief in Northern Ireland and the Good Friday agreement the open border would certainly be willing to go against the president," King said.

At the very least this might add uncertainty to the prospect of a quick bilateral trade agreement. And, in any case, such an agreement is highly unlikely until after 2020, when any authority Trump might now have on trade would likely expire.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Jul 31st, 2019 at 10:22:12 PM EST
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I also doubt that Trump will have much appetite for antagonising the Irish community at large, at least before the election. He appears dedicated to infuriating African-Americans, considering no doubt that their vote is lost to him anyway. But the Irish, not so sure.

Things are going to slide, slide in all directions
Won't be nothing
Nothing you can measure anymore
L. Cohen
by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Thu Aug 1st, 2019 at 05:55:38 AM EST
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Numerically, Trump's squad has been very Irish.
by das monde on Thu Aug 1st, 2019 at 06:41:52 AM EST
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Not only that, but, much as it shames me to admit it, the Irish American vote has been trending increasingly Republican, and even Trumpista in recent years. It is also possibly the most organised national lobby in the USA after the Zionists. AFAIK Hispanics don't tend to lobby for Spain, or Afro-Americans for African states, but the Irish lobby takes an active interest in Irish affairs and lobby accordingly.

Hence St. Patrick's day parades and White House ceremonials are one of the most important days on the US Political calendar. The English "special relationship" with the USA, on the other hand, is more of an elite and ideological thing, and thus doesn't have as much heft at the polling booths. During the Troubles, UK Diplomats regularly expressed frustration with their inability to prevent Gerry Adams et al fund-raising in the USA, and even having access to the White House.

I don't know enough about US political demographics to be definitive, but I suspect the Irish American vote was pivotal in enabling Trump win key swing States. His current net approval ratings in states he carried in 2016 are Pennsylvania (-7), Wisconsin (-13), Michigan (-12), Iowa (-12), North Carolina (-4), and Florida (0). Many of these states also have heavy concentrations of Americans claiming Irish roots:

In total 36M Americans claim Irish ancestry compared to 27M who claim English, but the English are predominately not located in Swing states.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Thu Aug 1st, 2019 at 09:33:52 AM EST
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Shame on you for posting that spurious representation of US origin stories, when the map supplied with the article suffices to illustrate purported approval of the current executive racist.

Morning Consult interactive map of survey responses (2017-2019), published with Business Insider [!], "Trump's approval rating is underwater in 8 major 2020 battleground states, and it's a troubling sign for his reelection prospects"

Let me put some useless, self-aggrandizing historicism in perspective. When, I was young and attending a venerable private day-school in Grosse Pointe Shores, MI, my 6th grade Social Studies teacher (for we now observed classroom periods in prep for high school) assigned his class of 22 personal genealogy. We were to report an oral narrative, family portraiture, and authentic or imaginary heraldic shield.

More or less, on the due date, one in 3 claimed origin by Mayflower transport and 2 in 3 descendance from Ireland, Scotland, France, Germany, wholly or in part, combined at least one Cherokee antecedent. The whole junior high school cohort numbered about 300, of which I was one of 4 who fit neither pattern for reasons that should be crystal fucking clear.

I bear this in mind to this day in order to reiterate. In the decades since I'm hardly surprised to find at least two in any room, claiming a union of pilgrims with Irish and Cherokee grannies for their totems. In the absence of contradictory narratives (which the "central registry" stores), US people change wardrobe by phase of the moon and wind velocity. Which is to say, where the "Irish" are isn't on a map of this federal-republic or Andrew Jackson's grisly militias, 1812-1845

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Aug 2nd, 2019 at 07:43:03 PM EST
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But if Frank is right about the influence on voting patterns, all that matters is that they think they are Irish. Whether they are really Irish or not doesn't matter.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Fri Aug 2nd, 2019 at 10:39:56 PM EST
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Frank has forgotten all about "Anglo Disease". Mission accomplished.

In the US HH income and wealth "influences" candidates. State electoral administration proscribes "voter patterns". (When's the last time Irish-Americans litigated voting rights as a class?) HH income and wealth predicts voter preference for a candidate  regardless of party affiliation or country of origin. That trait is only captured by Census and Dept. of State instruments from noncitizens/"lawfully" resident aliens. They cannot vote.

That "ancestry" map appears quite the exploit of expanded "race or ethnicity" queries first introduced to C2000 self-reporting. There's no telling if this source/"estimate" is original or derivative work product. It's been scrubbed. Rlly?

19,094,109 Americans are found mostly in the South East (people select this ancestry either as a political statement or because their pre-American [?!] ancestry is uncertain).

Self-perception of moribund "nationality", e.g. Scotch-Irish, among US persons of European persuasion is dubious. That was demonstrated quite dramatically by a 23&Me DNA population report, iirc, 2014, 2015. I shared a true story to demo: immigrant entry in the US is the basis of political status.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Sat Aug 3rd, 2019 at 02:18:33 AM EST
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Him.

He's a Class-A dick whose parochial racism (Albany -  NYC) and national scheming has only recently been somewhat moderated by age (75) and competition for market making, confounded by ignorant MSM elevation of the piker Steve KING (IA-4, FFS) to ignominy.

Long Island (R), NY-2, cradle to grave of my own dearly departed Robert, issue of Hard (G5) and Quinn (G2). King and his fraternal twin Schumer (formerly NY-16, "Five Towns") are heirs of master opportunist D'Amato (R).

MSM is no guide to the network of gangster intrigues and smug fraternal orders, bundling LI.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Aug 2nd, 2019 at 06:00:18 PM EST
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I forgot to say, there is no "opposition" to Trump. To paraphrase an insult, MSM quibbles about price.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Fri Aug 2nd, 2019 at 06:03:21 PM EST
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