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I read an interesting article on dKos last week, about how the German car industry painted itself into a corner on the internal combustion engine and is now woefully behind on developing 21st century technology electric vehicles. Something which is hurting it badly on its main export market of china.

However, I suspect that they are planning to use the excuse of brexit to get the EU to pay for the R&D and re-tooling they declined to pay for themselves by way of brexit compensation.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Aug 11th, 2019 at 02:57:13 PM EST
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Heck, the French car industry (Renault, Peugeot, Valeo...) will want in too. And they are not late to the EV party, but money is money.
(there's more to the EU than Germany)
by Bernard on Sun Aug 11th, 2019 at 03:59:02 PM EST
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I'm not sure what constitutes high tech in electric cars, but I bought an i3 a couple years ago and I've never been more pleased with a new car. It goes. It stops. It's built to last. I drove Japanese, American, German and French EVs before buying, but in respect to actually driving a car, the BMW was as good as any, and better than most.
Cars aren't phones.
by Andhakari on Sun Aug 11th, 2019 at 05:20:53 PM EST
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The problem with the traditional car companies, not only in Europe but everywhere, is that they think they need to be car companies. The outlier is Telsa, which sells a great car but more importantly has an extensive charging network. Porsche, for example, is going on and on about their new EV, but where will people plug it in? They need both a great car and a charging network.

EVs are disruptive. The existing car companies don't seem to get what they need to do to respond.

Tesla charger maps.

by asdf on Sun Aug 11th, 2019 at 05:34:44 PM EST
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I'm blessed to live in the EV paradise of Norway, and finding a charging point of whatever flavour is not in the least difficult here. Replicating Norway's incentive programs would be a good place to start for any country seeking to expand the purchase and use of EVs.
by Andhakari on Sun Aug 11th, 2019 at 06:00:11 PM EST
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Telsa, which sells a great car

I'm really not much into cars, so can't really evaluate Tesla the car, but ol Musky is one of the most blatant grifters since Theranos.

by generic on Sun Aug 11th, 2019 at 06:41:02 PM EST
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I think he has delivered a lot more than most grifters. That is not to say that he is not a grifter...
by asdf on Mon Aug 12th, 2019 at 02:13:45 AM EST
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My understanding was that he bought the whole Telsa business plan from that Eberhard guy.
by generic on Mon Aug 12th, 2019 at 11:35:03 AM EST
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Lots of Mercedes in the Tesla platform geometry, electrical parts, safety systems, etc. (At least for the model S.) But nevertheless he is selling a lot of them.

His motivation is certainly questionable; Musk obviously straddles the line between genius and insanity.

It seems pretty clear that Porsche have lost track of the fact that they sell a specialist version of a component part of a public transportation system. There's no utilitarian difference between a Porsche and a Toyota. That the basic structure of the transportation system is changing, and thus their position within that system also changing, has not occurred to them. Yet.

Sharing a charging station with a bunch of Fiats and Hondas is not going to provide the Porsche owner with the same class appeal as the Tesla-only stations provided by the competition.

by asdf on Mon Aug 12th, 2019 at 03:47:06 PM EST
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Anecdotal, but I noticed on vacation this summer that lots of roadside eateries in Sweden has one or two parking spots with chargers. Probably on an assumption that you will grab a bite to eat while charging.
by fjallstrom on Sun Aug 11th, 2019 at 11:05:43 PM EST
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