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So Boris is now hoist on his own petard. He is left with a choice between breaking the law, and breaking his word (yet again). The fact that he has prorogued parliament for 5 weeks actually let's parliament off the hook of having to appear to be doing something useful. Once the opposition have turned down his appeal for an election on Monday for the second time, his taunts that they are running away from the people will lose their effectiveness: Parliament can't call an election if it isn't even sitting.

In the meantime, disparate opposition groups are getting practice working together, and being seen to be effective. Meanwhile Boris' Brussels negotiations are not going well:
Boris Johnson's Irish border plan stalls after 'disastrous' EU talks

Boris Johnson's first concrete proposal for replacing the Irish backstop has hit the buffers in the latest "disastrous" meeting between the prime minister's chief negotiator and the EU.

In a heavily trailed move, Johnson's envoy, David Frost, proposed an all-Ireland food standards zone on Friday, but the UK is also seeking to give the Stormont assembly a say on whether it would continue in the years ahead.

The attempt to give the proposed arrangement what British officials have described as democratic legitimacy by involving politicians in Northern Ireland was firmly knocked back by the EU. European commission negotiators said such a proposal would leave Ireland in a constant state of uncertainty over the future.

The development comes as EU sources close to the negotiation spoke of their doubts about the potential fruitfulness of the talks given the likelihood of a general election and the insistence from the prime minister that his negotiating position has been wrecked by no deal being taken off the table.

EU officials involved in the negotiations are understood to have lamented that Frost has been acting "like a spokesman" for the prime minister, saying that Theresa May's envoy, Olly Robbins, had at least been able to talk around the problems encountered in the talks.

It hasn't escaped Brussels notice that the N.I. Assembly hasn't even met in almost 3 years, has no competence in trade matters, and would be subject to a DUP veto if it did meet. Also it hardly makes sense to conduct sanitary and phytosanitary checks in Belfast and Larne harbours and  VAT and customs checks elsewhere. Agri-foods constitute only about 30% of N.I./I.E. trade and EU officials need a solution that covers all such trade.

Boris might be said to be trying to have it both ways, denying the 56% of N.I. voters who voted to Remain the right to remain, but providing the DUP with a veto on North South cooperation indefinitely.

Earlier in the week Johnson had referenced the comments of the former Democratic Unionist party (DUP) leader Ian Paisley who had said of Northern Ireland that the people were British but "the cattle were Irish".

Johnson is insisting, in a move designed to make the proposal palatable to the DUP, that the arrangement would have to "clearly enjoy the consent of all parties and institutions with an interest".

It is understood the UK has suggested there is a need for Stormont to be able to vote on the continuation of the proposed common regulatory area, which has been described by EU officials as a "backstop-lite".

EU sources said the suggestion was firmly rebuffed and that recent meetings had been a "disaster", with the gap between the two negotiating teams seemingly widening by the day.

Sources said the discussion over the common agrifood area was "cursory" and further discussions over the UK's preferred alternative to the backstop were expected next week.

Irish government sources reacted angrily to Johnson's gambit, saying the protection of the all-Ireland economy was a vital element of the Good Friday agreement, and that the responsibility for protecting the peace process lay with Westminster and not the Northern Ireland assembly.



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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Fri Sep 6th, 2019 at 09:52:56 PM EST
Now strongly hinting he will not obey the new law:

The prime minister reportedly wrote to Tory members on Friday evening pledging to break the law that will require him to seek an extension of Article 50. "They just passed a law that would force me to beg Brussels for an extension to the Brexit deadline. This is something I will never do."

Earlier on Friday he said he would not entertain seeking another deadline extension from Brussels, as the incoming law, expected to receive royal assent on Monday, compels him to if no agreement is in place by 19 October. "I will not. I don't want a delay," Johnson said.

The former Conservative leader Iain Duncan Smith encouraged Mr Johnson to break the law, saying he would be seen as a Brexit "martyr" if judges opted to put him jail for breaching parliament's terms.



Things are going to slide, slide in all directions
Won't be nothing
Nothing you can measure anymore
L. Cohen
by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Sat Sep 7th, 2019 at 05:59:01 AM EST
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What a wonderful example for the whole country - only obey the laws you agree with. Tories: The party of unlawful disorder...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Sat Sep 7th, 2019 at 12:57:19 PM EST
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But a martyr... For the cause of the People... Against the establishment... Against the elites...

</stevebannon>

Things are going to slide, slide in all directions
Won't be nothing
Nothing you can measure anymore
L. Cohen

by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Sat Sep 7th, 2019 at 01:07:04 PM EST
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Personally on the hook for all damage done by a no-deal Brext then, according to David Allen Green, as well as criminal charges and contempt of court.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sat Sep 7th, 2019 at 01:44:27 PM EST
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Pfeffle of Pfeff Hall gets his comeuppance.

Things are going to slide, slide in all directions
Won't be nothing
Nothing you can measure anymore
L. Cohen

by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Sat Sep 7th, 2019 at 02:26:32 PM EST
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What is he legally required to do?

Carry a one sentence paper to Brussels and then spend a day verbally arguing against it? Write up a dissertation on all the bad stuff about the EU and then on the last page say that despite everything he is requesting an extension? Take the paper to the Brussels airport and toss it into the bin? Make a verbal request in an even more obnoxious and insulting way that already demonstrated?

Seems like there is lots of wiggle room for the PM to avoid making a serious extension request.

by asdf on Sat Sep 7th, 2019 at 02:12:44 PM EST
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I just know, you are an avid reader of pending litigation evoking the OBSCURE Administrative Procedure Act, 5 U.S. Code CHAPTER 5, to thwart sundry executive agencies' regulations, directed by Team Trump alias POTUS, to implement horseshit enacted by the money-grubbing odious.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Sat Sep 7th, 2019 at 08:06:54 PM EST
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after the dread Rosenstein, after the dread 2020 Census "citizen question"
Immigrants Take Feds to Court Over Stricter Asylum Rules
In addition to [allegedly] violating the Administrative Procedure Act, federal immigration law and the First Amendment [?], the groups and asylum seekers say the rules are invalid because the man who issued them, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services Acting Director Ken Cuccinelli, was unlawfully appointed.

Cuccinelli took over USCIS after President Donald Trump forced former Director Lee Francis Cissna to resign. Under a federal law that dictates how acting directors take on their roles, the groups say USCIS Deputy Director Mark Koumans should have taken over for Cissna, but that Trump worked around this by making a new office just for Cuccinelli.



Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Mon Sep 9th, 2019 at 07:05:24 PM EST
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According the the Telegraph, the Tories have a Cunning Plan.
Without violating the Torygraph's paywall, nor encouraging anyone to give them money, here's the Guardian's extract :

As referred to earlier, according to today's Daily Telegraph splash (paywall), Johnson is considering a new version of the "two contradictory letters strategy" to try to confound the law passed by parliament requiring him to request an article 50 extension if he has failed to agree a Brexit deal by 19 October, and if MPs have not voted to agree no deal (which they won't). Here is an extract from Owen Bennett and Harry Yorke's story.

Boris Johnson has drawn up plans to "sabotage" any Brexit extension without breaking the law, the Telegraph has learnt ...
One plan under serious consideration would see the prime minister send an accompanying letter alongside the request to extend article 50 setting out that the government does not want any delay after Oct 31.
On Sunday night, a cabinet source told The Telegraph: "There is a prescribed letter that has to be sent ... Does that stop the prime minister sending other documents to the EU? I don't think it does.
"A political explainer perhaps, as to where the government's policy is. It has to make clear that the government is asking for an extension, but let's not forget what the next step is.
"Once that is done, the Europeans are going to ask: `Why? What is the reason?' [What] if the government said: `We don't have any reasons for an extension'?
"There is a clear path now: the Europeans need to refuse an extension."

Wizard wheeze. I'm sure that'll work. Unless someone in Brussels (or Paris or Berlin or...) knows how to read English, and is aware that this bozo has no majority in Parliament, and that Parliament has commanded him to request an extension.

In which case, I should think the extension would be granted pretty much automatically.


It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Mon Sep 9th, 2019 at 08:41:52 AM EST
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See a highly authorised opinion of this wizard wheeze here.

Things are going to slide, slide in all directions
Won't be nothing
Nothing you can measure anymore
L. Cohen
by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Mon Sep 9th, 2019 at 09:21:23 AM EST
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Although I am of the opinion that Boris might try it and shout "see you in court!!!". By the time the case can be tried and a judgement passed, it'll be far too late. No deal will have happened.

Also, judging by the pronouncements over the high court judgements on pro-roguing, I think the courts are trying to stay out of politics.

Of course, Boris or cummings might go to jail, but I doubt it. they'll be fined, slapped on the wrist. Even if they do go, presuming a Tory govt, they'll be pardoned, ennobled and sent to the Lords from which they'll rule in absentia from the bar of a luxury yacht in the Mediterranean after they've cashed in their winnings

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Sep 10th, 2019 at 01:06:23 PM EST
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For one so young you are so cynical!
As a public schoolboy Boris will have been taught to obey the rules and present his back-side for a good thrashing if he disobeys them...
If he were serious about doing such things he wouldn't be allowing his Sherpas to be speculating to the media about them. Never let your enemy see you coming...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Sep 10th, 2019 at 03:07:30 PM EST
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