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Obtaining the votes of a class of people that feel disinherited and hopeless by means of lies, manipulation, and demagogy hardly counts as supporting the "working class", does it? Or maybe it does in your book.

Things are going to slide, slide in all directions
Won't be nothing, nothing you can measure anymore
L. Cohen
by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Fri Jan 31st, 2020 at 10:08:21 AM EST
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So they are stupid? They don't know what they want? But you know what's best for them?

We've been hearing this from the middle class since Marx ... or possibly since Roman times.

Try to accept the possibility that people understand the options and vote for what they want.

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sapere aude

by Number 6 on Fri Jan 31st, 2020 at 10:34:31 AM EST
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https:/www.spiked-online.com/2020/01/28/terry-christian-the-true-face-of-remoaner-bigotry
"It is these prejudices against the `low-information' and `soon-to-be-dead' voters that prevented Remainers from seeing Leave voters as their democratic equals, allowing them to wage an all-out war on democracy without any semblance of guilt."


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sapere aude
by Number 6 on Fri Jan 31st, 2020 at 10:54:34 AM EST
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Either people are always voting in their best interest, and to suggest otherwise is insulting, or they are not.

If they are, that means that they were also voting in their best interest when they chose the other way.

If they are not, then the arguments advanced in the election campaign can be compared with the outcomes and likely outcomes of the policies enacted.

I think the second way of looking at things is the correct one. That does imply that people can be tricked, but also that the real input from the demos is quite limited in these democracies of ours.

by fjallstrom on Fri Jan 31st, 2020 at 10:57:29 AM EST
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Try to accept the possibility that they are misled about the options.

And please stop whittering about the "middle class". Are you "working class"? In what way?

Personally, I am only "middle class" by the education I was fortunate to receive in the postwar years when public policy was more favourable to the lower classes than it is today.

And excuse me, but for someone who is apparently celebrating today, you seem unaccountably angry. Why is that?

Things are going to slide, slide in all directions
Won't be nothing, nothing you can measure anymore
L. Cohen

by john_evans (john(dot)evans(dot)et(at)gmail(dot)com) on Fri Jan 31st, 2020 at 11:06:49 AM EST
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