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She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Mon Nov 2nd, 2020 at 03:02:28 PM EST
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It's why I think to US "left" is sometimes no better than the right. They are more concerned with personal ideological purity than doing something practical to help those really suffering under the current regime..

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon Nov 2nd, 2020 at 04:57:46 PM EST
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The US Left disappeared up its own arse decades ago.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Mon Nov 2nd, 2020 at 06:10:26 PM EST
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Can you specify what real world event you are refering to? As far as I can tell what's there of an organized left has been a reliable voting block no matter what war criminal or race realist the party decided to slap a D on.
by generic on Mon Nov 2nd, 2020 at 07:25:36 PM EST
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Adding: And the Ds are absolutely acting as if they know this. They're not even pretending to offer anything the left wants.
by generic on Mon Nov 2nd, 2020 at 07:36:02 PM EST
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That's the reality of a bipolar two party system. Your choice is never better than the least worst option. But I wouldn't expect the Dems to offer a very leftist agenda when they are competing against the right, not the left. Why give oxygen/credibility to what Trump is branding, even now, as a far left antifa agenda?

It's what they actually do, when in office, that matters, and on that basis, in most policy areas, I think Obama was better than Trump - and especially better than what I expect Trump would do if he wins a second term. My main concern would be that the Dems will re-empower the neo-cons in their ranks, although probably none are as bad as John Bolton. I have a problem with "holier than thou" moralists of all stripes, and on that scale some US leftists are up there with the evangelical Christians.

It's why, I think, they have so little influence anywhere. The US needs structural reform - taking the money and corporations out of politics, eliminating gerrymandering, rebalancing the Supreme Court, eliminating civilian guns and the the electoral college, giving senate seats to DC and Puerto Rico etc. But it is almost impossible to change much of that without constitutional amendments which will be impossible to enact against the opposition of vested interests. So barring a second revolution, my expectations are v. low, and I will settle for Biden over Trump.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Mon Nov 2nd, 2020 at 08:07:14 PM EST
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Well, the obvious purely electoral strategy in a two party system to get anything at all out of it is to draw redlines and keep to them. Of course the US left has neither the organization nor the will to organize something like that. And it is a strategy that ultimately assumes some measure of good faith and will to power. Which we really can not. Just as the Sensible Moderates™ on Brexit Island were perfectly happy to burn it all down and salt the remains. So I don't think it can work, but I can't blame anyone for trying.
After all, the likely result of a a Biden administration would look like: Mishandling of the pandemic, austerity and rehabilitation of the GOP brand and a consequent continuation of the far right take over of all state institutions.
by generic on Tue Nov 3rd, 2020 at 10:39:24 AM EST
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Lenin: Blocs With the Cadets

The Mensheviks' main argument is the Black-Hundred danger. The first and fundamental flaw in this argument is that the Black-Hundred danger cannot be combated by Cadet tactics and a Cadet policy. The essence of this policy lies in reconciliation with tsarism, that is, with the Black-Hundred danger. The first Duma sufficiently demonstrated that the Cadets do not combat the Black-Hundred danger, but make incredibly despicable speeches about the innocence and blamelessness of the monarch, the known leader of the Black Hundreds. Therefore, by helping to elect Cadets to the Duma, the Mensheviks are not only failing to combat the Black-Hundred danger, but are hoodwinking the people, are obscuring the real significance of the Black-Hundred danger. Combating the Black-Hundred danger by helping to elect the Cadets to the Duma is like combating pogroms by means of the speech delivered by the lackey Rodichev: "It is presumption to hold the monarch responsible for the pogrom."

Of course if there is a Lenin around he currently spends all his time in flame wars( much as the historical one did).

by generic on Tue Nov 3rd, 2020 at 05:39:44 PM EST
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