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I was hugely disappointed by Kamala Harris. I don't know if she can't think on her feet and was poorly prepared or if she was prepared specifically not to come across as an angry black woman, but her failure to grasp debate opportunities in the first 20 minutes led me to turn off the debate.

While they were on the first point, about COVID, would it really be so abstruse and aggressive for her to have brought up President Trump's dismissal and public ridicule of mask wearing and social distancing, or, even worse, his discouragement of his staff and family from wearing masks and following CDC recommendations, let alone his encouragement of his followers to flaunt CDC recommendations? Is this not an obvious point? Would it not have served better than bringing up her family and childhood?

This was supposed to be a debate, not a 'candidate meets the public' event. Participants were supposed to attempt to score points and discredit the other side. Pence had a pack of the usual lies. Harris had the truth, but didn't stoop to using it.  

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Oct 8th, 2020 at 02:36:24 PM EST
For Harris it was about introducing herself to a public who largely didn't know her and present herself as sympathetic and likeable. It really wasn't about winning an argument, and she used her time to present her agenda rather than respond much to his.

Yes, it was very frustrating to watch as she passed on a whole range of open goals.  The format didn't allow an open debate as even the moderator wasn't allowed to ask follow-up question or insist that her questions be answered.

Pence is a master at not answering the question and defending the indefensible, and even had the chutzpah to say (twice) that she was entitled to her own opinions but not to her own facts. This from a regime which invented "alternative facts" to allow themselves live in an alternate reality.

But I don't think you were the target audience for her: it was the low information, independent, uncommitted and swing voters she was trying to woo - basically by demonstrating she was a dignified and and caring person.

You may have missed out on an opportunity to see Pence lambasted, but you will have to bottle your frustration and vent it at the ballot box instead. All she had to do was not interfere with the current trajectory of the race.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Thu Oct 8th, 2020 at 03:20:18 PM EST
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I certainly hope you are correct, Frank. Yet I fail to see why it could possibly have hurt the Biden ticket for Harris to at least respond to Pence's allegations that she and Biden were undermining confidence in the vaccine by responding that, at least, her team was not encouraging their supporters to flout CDC recommendations regarding masks and social distancing. After all, is it really such a faux pas to act like it really is a debate at least occasionally?


"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Oct 8th, 2020 at 05:09:57 PM EST
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"This was supposed to be a debate..."

There's your problem.  It's not a debate in any reasonable definition.  It's a mutual press conference.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Thu Oct 8th, 2020 at 03:21:12 PM EST
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I am only asking for an occasional pretense that it really is a debate. Is that too much?

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Oct 8th, 2020 at 05:11:31 PM EST
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Not too much to ask.

Is too much to expect.


She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Thu Oct 8th, 2020 at 06:28:47 PM EST
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Kamala Harris failed completely already in the primaries, where she flip-flopped on every issue and came trough as a complete fraud and with a track record of hating the poor that even republicans would be shamed of.

She even lost her own state, California. So when she was picked as a veep candidate, she didn't actually bring anything to Biden's campaign. No new policies (she has none) and no new supporters (she has none).

Only thing she has going for her is ticking proper idpol boxes and thus being good at fundraising from the wealthy liberals. Her task in the "debate" was to convince the DNC donors that "nothing will change" - rich will still get richer during Har...Biden administration.

Kamala did bring up the totally bogus Russia bounty issue, so we know one thing will change: the administration's commitment to go to war.

by pelgus on Thu Oct 8th, 2020 at 04:35:36 PM EST
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Some days I believe that I am the only person on the planet who is amused by the prospect of the two most hyped DNC caucus failures assuming leadership of the "free world"--by default.
by Cat on Thu Oct 8th, 2020 at 07:32:06 PM EST
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While not amused I am disgusted. Both were among my least favorite primary candidates. Biden is Republican Lite and Kamala is Ms. Opportunist.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Fri Oct 9th, 2020 at 03:17:39 PM EST
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I was ok with Harris, but this thing we have going about 70 being the minimum age is crazy.
by asdf on Sat Oct 10th, 2020 at 02:23:00 AM EST
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A retirement age of 70 is pathetically bad, especially for those who do manual labor. For far too many it is a prescription for working themselves to death, or, at a minimum, working until they are in  bad enough shape to qualify for Medicade - which is pretty bad, especially in conservative states.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Oct 17th, 2020 at 02:00:27 PM EST
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