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They still have allies and supporters in the UK military and intelligence agencies capable of supplying their logistic needs and could also give them intelligence and counter-intelligence directly and indirectly from Interpol & etc.

The US has millions of these kind of people and they are vicious fucks - think KKK - when provoked.


She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Tue Nov 24th, 2020 at 02:54:27 AM EST
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For that reason it is important that any UK Ireland transfer of sovereignty deal ensures that the UK co-owns the problem of making it work for both parties at least for a 10 year transitionary period. The UK will also need to ensure that UK EU relations remain as positive as possible even if elements within the UK want to f*ck with Ireland.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Nov 24th, 2020 at 09:39:35 AM EST
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What has been remarkable in the US (to an outside observer) is the degree to which the far right has lost the support of "deep state" intelligence and policing agencies who have done little to support Trump. Imagine the US progressive left trumpeting the probity of the electoral process 4 or 20 years ago!

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Tue Nov 24th, 2020 at 09:42:43 AM EST
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The Deep State has its own progressive/regressive split. Trump, Bannon and the rest are tentacles of the regressive faction.

The visible TLAs aren't wholly part of the Deep State at all, although factions working within them may be.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Nov 24th, 2020 at 03:19:02 PM EST
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by generic on Tue Nov 24th, 2020 at 03:29:23 PM EST
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My experience is that the political views of the members of the various  US government agencies is comparable to that of the population overall. Even the military is not as conservative as some people would like to think.

There's a lot of "I'm not saying anything because I don't want to get into an argument."

by asdf on Tue Nov 24th, 2020 at 11:17:28 PM EST
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I can see at least two reasons: the "far right" in US is now overlapping with the fringe that thinks government is The Enemy - especially the government spooks, and on the other hand many people from the conservative working class having lost family members in the useless, never-ending wars they want to stop, which is completely opposite of the "deep state" agenda.
by pelgus on Wed Nov 25th, 2020 at 08:41:15 AM EST
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Wasn't there always some a strong current of performative anti-intellectualism on the far right, while the intelligence agencies almost entirely recruit from elite universities? And the biggest far right organization in the country is still the Fraternal Order of Police, which was all in on Trump. I'm also not that surprised that Democratic loyalists would taut the integrity of the election process. After all, one side committing high treason to land the October surprise while the other side pretends everything is fine describes about every second US election in the last 50 years.
by generic on Wed Nov 25th, 2020 at 01:03:12 PM EST
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