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Thanks for your insight Helen. Personally I don't see a United Ireland in the next 10 years, come what economic carnage that may come. The divisions are much more deep rooted than that, and it doesn't take a lot of people to mount a terrorist campaign.

I don't think most unionists yet realise just how dis-engaged most Brexteers are with the union of Britain & N. Ireland except in a purely ideological and symbolic way. It will take the £10 Billion p.a. economic subsidy to come under threat for them to realise this.

And even then Ireland would have to come up with a credible plan for how that £10 Billion will be replaced and how any new political arrangements will be to everyone's benefit. This is all doable but requires a lot of vision, hard work and good will on all sides which may not be available in the short term.

Given the choice between the devil they know (the status quo) and some uncertain future, a majority will always opt for the status quo. The challenge is to create a vision of the future almost everyone can believe will be better. I don't see many people working on that atm.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Sun Dec 27th, 2020 at 05:50:49 PM EST
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what status quo?

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Dec 27th, 2020 at 06:49:13 PM EST
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The status quo established by the NI protocol of the Withdrawal Agreement and the EU UK FTA.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Sun Dec 27th, 2020 at 07:04:37 PM EST
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yes, but that particular status quo is exactly the one that is will prise ulster away from great Britain.
The status quo ante was membership of the UK, looking to Westminster. However, being separated by customs barriers for an increasingly disinterested Westminster which will have many more urgent problems closer to home to deal with.
Over time, London will simply expect Dublin to step up and Belfast will look that way as well.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Dec 27th, 2020 at 09:12:24 PM EST
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It is remarkable the degree to which unionists look to Dublin to solve their problems, even now, while lambasting Dublin in the net breath. No one does cognitive dissonance like an Ulster unionist!

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Sun Dec 27th, 2020 at 11:34:37 PM EST
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