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Yep, and thanks for all your work. How ironic that a once very progressive country is now stuck with Mark Rutte. At least Boris is within the traditions of a long line of Tory toffs. And America has always had its snake oil salesmen. They just didn't make them President...

Keep safe and well!

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Thu Mar 19th, 2020 at 01:33:27 PM EST
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The more I look at the UK's measures, the more convinced I am that the policy is still to spread the virus through the population as quickly as possible.

Closing tube stations and rationing travel means that people who have to travel will be forced to cough all over each other on the remaining public transport systems.

Failing to test anyone - including health workers - means that gig economy workers can't be sure if they should stay at home.

Failing to test - never mind quarantine - travellers on incoming flights guarantees that infected tourists are free to spread the virus to everyone they meet.

Failing to shut the borders - likewise.

Keeping schools open for a week longer than needed gives the virus plenty of time to spread to parents, and to everyone they're in contact with.

And so on. Beyond a bit of "advice", it's very hard to find any evidence at all of the UK taking concrete steps to minimise exposure.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Mar 19th, 2020 at 02:22:54 PM EST
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I have to dispute the vilification of Rutte. While I am not a huge fan of his economic policies, what Rutte said was wildly misrepresented in the Irish Times for one. While my Dutch is not perfect, I listened to his speech on the day and I was stunned at the reaction in the Irish press. It bore no relationship to the speech I heard. Rutte was calm measured and reassuring. Instead of this herd immunity canard, he said that there was three options, and that the Dutch approach was to maximally control it so that the hospitals could cope, and that eventually herd immunity would come (my understanding was this is exactly the flattening the curve.

Please read his speech. You can find impartial coverage in dutchnews.nl in English. https:/www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/03/mps-back-ministers-on-coronavirus-herd-immunity-is-not-the-aim -says-rutte

by piobar on Sun Mar 22nd, 2020 at 12:39:24 AM EST
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On Conservative Approach, Rutte Takes Cue from BoJo ... they could have been twins ... not for the first time! On foreign policy David Cameron, Theresa May, Boris Johnson as well as Mark Rutte are on the same page. Even in Jamuary, Rutte expressed his "love" for president Trump ... see my diaries.

On herd immunity, what Rutte proclaimed in his Address to the Nation on Monday, he backed off (even denied he said it) in Dutch parliament two days later.

Dutch embrace 'herd immunity' as dire death warning prompts UK to change course

My Dutch is perfect and Rutte is a smooth talker ... it's all PR. Damn, he even shops in the same supermarkt, an Albert Heijn which doesn't quite stock up in goods as well as competitor Jumbo. Rutte lives close by and I have run in to him on occasion. I even had a brief chat with him in the street where he lives ... he was flabbergasted ... I acted as if he  wasn't recognized as the Prime Minister. It truly frustrated him. 🤣

'Sapere aude'

by Oui (Oui) on Sun Mar 22nd, 2020 at 02:24:04 AM EST
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Minister President Mark Rutte of The Netherlands will be remembered in history, quite like Dutch PM Colijn during the military build-up in Germany and the outbreak of World War II ...

My new diary with a brief summary of the politics and results ...

From Outbreak to a Global Pandemic

'Sapere aude'

by Oui (Oui) on Sun Mar 22nd, 2020 at 10:05:30 AM EST
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