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Seems to me the labels "conservative" and "(US-style) liberal" are up for serious reconsideration. Certainly on this side of the pond they have become meaningless even in comparison to their previous meaninglessness.

"Populism controlled by strong man" appears to be the globally resurgent system. People like kings. Monarchy is the standard historical method of governing. Nothing new under the Sun.

by asdf on Thu Apr 30th, 2020 at 04:29:55 PM EST
In European terms the US terms 'conservative' and 'liberal' mean fascist and conservative, respectively. There is no significant social democrat party in the USA...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Fri May 1st, 2020 at 02:51:51 PM EST
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I came across an NPR station that had an interview with Gor3e Vidal. Fascinating. At one point he made the statement that America had never had a leftist government. the Interviewer asked how he would characterize FDR. He answered "Conservative". The interviewer said, "What! What would you call Ronald Reagan then?" After a pause he said, "Umm. How about 'reactionary'?"
by StillInTheWilderness on Fri May 1st, 2020 at 09:26:22 PM EST
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Best of Enemies

Gore Vidal beamed one of his supercilious side-eyes at William F. Buckley Jr. and called him a "crypto-fascist."

Global Warming - distance between America and Europe is steadily increasing.

by Oui on Fri May 1st, 2020 at 11:23:45 PM EST
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He was joking. There was never anything crypto about William B. Fuckley's fascism.
by rifek on Sat May 9th, 2020 at 05:00:59 PM EST
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I came across an NPR station that had an interview with Gore Vidal. Fascinating. At one point he made the statement that America had never had a leftist government. the Interviewer asked how he would characterize FDR. He answered "Conservative". The interviewer said, "What! What would you call Ronald Reagan then?" After a pause he said, "Umm. How about 'reactionary'?"
by StillInTheWilderness on Fri May 1st, 2020 at 09:28:09 PM EST
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It's going to get worse. Obama was relatively progressive. Biden and his "moderate because we need to get the undecided votes" VP candidate will be...not.
by asdf on Sat May 2nd, 2020 at 01:55:09 AM EST
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