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Brits want all the rights and privileges of being in the EU without any of the costs, duties, and responsibilities of being in the EU and they can't understand why the EU is objecting.

Basically the Brits are sociopaths: a personality disorder characterized by persistent antisocial behavior, impaired empathy and remorse, and bold, disinhibited, and egotistical traits.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sat Sep 19th, 2020 at 02:13:31 PM EST
That is such a racist thing to say. I hope you're suitably ashamed of yourself (but thank you for saying it so I didn't have to)

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Mon Sep 21st, 2020 at 02:50:29 PM EST
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But don't get me wrong. I have a pet Brit who isn't at all like the others. In fact, some of my best friends are Brits. Really.

But as for my daughter marrying one, don't get me started.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Tue Sep 22nd, 2020 at 01:14:57 PM EST
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It's not Brits in general - it's specifically the Tory upper class. Although after decades of propaganda from the sewer press, they've done an excellent job of infecting some of the rest of the population.

There have been a couple of memoirs published this week - one by Barbara Amiel, wife of convicted criminal and former Daily Telegraph owner Conrad Black, and one by Sasha Swires, wife of a central but not particularly notable Tory MP who is part of the inner circle which includes Johnson and Cameron.

Both do a jaw-dropping job of revealing just how banally amoral and mediocre these people are. And also how socially interbred. Not only do they all know each other, they all go on holidays together and socialise in other ways.

Ethically, they're literally stuck in arrested adolescence. Senior Tories routinely make snickery penis jokes and show no interest in the lives of most of the population. They have money and an unshakeable sense of entitlement, and narcissism does the rest.

I don't think there are many outright sociopaths, but severe narcissism is certainly endemic - and Swires, with a rather unusual hint of self-awareness, says as much. Some even feel a vague sense of unease that perhaps things are not quite as they should be, but not to the point they'll do anything about it.

To be fair it's a very British kind of narcissism - class-driven and sneakily passive aggressive. It's slightly more covert than US narcissism, which might as well be the Official State Religion because of the way it permeates business and personal relationships at every level.

Just as in the US, the most distinctive feature of these professional narcissists is their utter mediocrity. Trump is fundamentally a cheap con artist who was born rich and privileged enough to be able to run his lies and scams with a certain amount of political air cover. Johnson is exactly the same, but instead of owning a gold plated lift, he speaks Latin and plays on the sympathies of his victims.

The rest of the British Tories are similarly clueless, but with varying degrees of burning ambition.

It's a horror show in both countries - a perfect kakistocracy of emotional dysfunction and practical idiocy.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Sep 21st, 2020 at 05:26:00 PM EST
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Galloway goes Full-McConnell
archived "none of us currently living are responsible."
by Cat on Mon Sep 21st, 2020 at 07:52:36 PM EST
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The longer term problem is that at some point the peasants revolt. Right now it's all bread and circuses and racism (outright slavery not being acceptable yet), but that is not a sustainable path. Especially when you have climate change and the Asian economic systems coming along. It's just a matter of what breaks down first.

My guess is that it's the economies in both the UK and the US. The UK because of Brexit and the US because of completely strategy-free economic policy.

by asdf on Tue Sep 22nd, 2020 at 05:39:18 PM EST
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Oh the Ueberklass has a strategy all right: How much can we steal before it all falls down?
by rifek on Wed Sep 23rd, 2020 at 04:53:23 PM EST
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"That's the thing about money:  It's just electrons on a computer balance sheet.  It's easy to move it to another jurisdiction, and there is always a jurisdiction that will give you a tax-advantaged transfer."
by asdf on Wed Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:16:21 PM EST
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