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I still believe that Trump didn't expect the mob to storm the chambers and force the lawmakers to flee under police protection. At best, he was expecting that their raucous noise might coy Pence and the Senate Repubs to overcome the Electoral votes in his favor, however far fetched. At a minimum, to tar the Biden presidency with illegitimacy to weaken him from the get go, under the protests of the "real Americans".

Like the rest of us, he didn't expect the crowd to actually enter the building and start ransacking it. This is where he went too far and alienated the very Republicans like Pence and McConnell upon whom he depends to save his sorry ass come January 20. The proof is: he folded, rebuked the rioters, finally conceded that Biden would be President and has been lying low ever since.

by Bernard on Fri Jan 8th, 2021 at 08:55:42 PM EST
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Who knows? The national guard was held back by Trump loyalists in the defense department. I don't know what he expected but he expected something when he sicked the dogs on Congress.

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by epochepoque on Fri Jan 8th, 2021 at 09:04:52 PM EST
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Have you seen the video of Melanoma - I mean Melania - boogying while Trump watches the fray? Rumours are he was astounded that his advisers weren't as delighted by the tumult as he was.

He actively encouraged the crowd to fight. The plans were being laid for weeks. He even put some of them up at his hotel - although I doubt he lowered the rates.

What he didn't do was plan properly. That was the idiocy.

He thought a mob of peasants in fancy dress - estate agents, marketing consultants, micro-CEOs and other bottom feeders - would be able to stop the election certification process. He somehow expected this would be enough keep him in power.

But you can't stage a coup without the military onside. And there was enough dissent and opposition there to make success impossible.

So he was left with a media event. Which will lead to a backlash, and a prison sentence.

The polarisation won't go away, but "domestic terrorism" is now on the legislative table as a threat that needs to be dealt with. Biden may or may not be of a mind to do much about it, but the balance has now tilted away from the white supremacists.

They had their chance, they had their man at the top, but - luckily for the rest of us - they didn't have the organisation or the deep support to go all the way.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Jan 8th, 2021 at 09:19:38 PM EST
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My take

Trump was pissed-off and banned chief-of-staff of VP Pence from the White House.

Trump makes war ... he'll fight and be strong ... not a LOSER.

This was a planned attack on the Legislative branch of U.S. Congress. The battle was announced via social media ... the incitement was direct and clearly understood by a mass in frenzie. I learned this in college Institute of Technology a course in Journalism and Propaganda. You need just a handful of instigators or agents provocateurs to move such a mass of people into an unruly mob.

Trump wanted to punish U.S. Congress where his fate would be sealed. VP Pence had told him it was not in his power nor by US Constitution to change the Vote of The People. Trump didn't agree ... he embodies the Executive and has all the might needed. From his exhibition walking through the MLB Demonstration to the Church from the White House for his photo-op holdin the Bible as a shield against all evil was already indicative of his insanity. For Bill Barr and the Staff of the Pentagon, this was a BIG MISTAKE ... once and never again!

Trump manipulated his followers to follow him when and if asked: "Stand back and Stand-by".

A very angry Lindsey Graham ...

With a powerful automatic rifle, multiple deaths could have been caused inside the Chamber, it could have been a bloodbath ... martial law would have followed with Trump staying in power.

"All I can say is count me out. Enough is enough. I've tried to be helpful'"

Graham on riots: "They could have killed us all"

Pointing to 2021 marking the 20th anniversary of the terror attacks that killed nearly 3,000 Americans, he asked how authorities could have "failed so miserably."

"Yesterday they could have blown the building up. They could have killed us all," he said. "People coming through the windows had backpacks, as big as my desk on the Senate. They should have been challenged, warning shots should have been fired and lethal force should have been used once they'd penetrated the seat of government. Those backpacks could have had bombs chemical agents, weapons. We dodged a major bullet yesterday. If this is not a wake up call, I do not know what it is. Is that a money problem? If it is we'll fix it. Is it a leadership problem? Obviously. Is it an Intel failure of the highest proportions? Absolutely."

by Oui on Fri Jan 8th, 2021 at 10:12:52 PM EST
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Trump Mob Chases Lindsey Graham From Airport Terminal: 'Traitor!'

Lindsey Graham, the South Carolina Republican senator who was an ardent critic of Donald Trump until the latter was elected president, was rushed away from an angry pro-Trump mob Friday, according to a video tweeted by Politico reporter Daniel Lippman.

The incident occurred at Washington, D.C.'s Reagan International Airport.

by Oui on Fri Jan 8th, 2021 at 11:21:38 PM EST
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"I still believe that Trump didn't expect the mob to storm the chambers and force the lawmakers to flee under police protection."

Reports are that he was happy when he heard about the break-in and was confused about why nobody else around him was.

 

by asdf on Sat Jan 9th, 2021 at 12:54:25 AM EST
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All good points: What was Trump expecting, really?

That Josh Hawley would greet the rioters at the door of the Senate to usher them in? That Ted Cruz would then take the chair over from Mike Pence, toss the Electoral College votes and declare Trump President For Life??

Speculating what Trump thinks is a futile endeavor and I've done way too much of that already, so I'll stop.

Sticking to the observable facts, the senior Republicans are obviously no longer "humoring him" - and they don't seem entirely happy to have been exfiltrated from the Capitol under police protection. Trump has been laying low ever since, sulking like a four-year old ground by his parents since he almost burned the family house down in his latest tantrum, while his toys (Twitter, Facebook, Insta) are taken away.

by Bernard on Sat Jan 9th, 2021 at 01:21:32 PM EST
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by Oui on Sat Jan 9th, 2021 at 02:05:19 PM EST
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