"The Backstory" radio footnote: Erik Wemple OpEd, "Indictment of Steele dossier source is more bad news for...(9 Nov) author of Midnight in Washington, How we almost lost our democracy and still could, Adam Schiff, on "The View" (9 Nov)

SCHIFF: If people lie to the FBI, they should go to jail. But at the beginning of the Russia investigation, I said that any allegations should be investigated. We couldn't have known, for example, people were lying to Christopher Steele. So it was proper to investigate them, and le'ts not forget what we learned in that investigation. We learned that the Trump campaign chairman, Paul Manaforte, was giving internal polling data, campaign poling data, to Russian intelligence, while Russian intelligence was helping the Trump campaign ...
guest host and former Trump State Department spokesperson Morgan ORTAGUS: Then, to be clear, he was fired half way through the campaign.
SCHIFF: Well, he may have been fired, but the effor to get Russian help continued and even beyond the effort to get Russian help ...
ORTAGUS: but you may have helped [spread Rusia disinformation] yourself for years by promotiong it, this informfation. I think, that's what Republicans, people who entrusted you as the intelligence committee chair, are so confused about your culpability in this.
SCHIFF: Well, I completely disagree with your premise. It's one thing to say allegations should be investigated--and they were--it's another to say we should have should have seen in advance that some people were lying to Christopher Steele, which is impossible of course to do. But let's not use that as a smoke screen to somehow shield Donald Trump's culpability for inviting Russia to help him win the election--which they did--for trying to force Ukrain into helping him in the next election--which he did--into inciting an errection ...er insurrection--which he did. None of that is undercut, none of that serious misconduct is in any way diminished by the fact that people lied to Christopher Steele.
ORTAGUS: No, I think, just to your credibility. That's well ...

my transcript of interview audio recording broadcast by Sputnik radio show, "The Backstory," hosts Mssrs. Stranahan (the contrite Breitbart stringer) and Kiriakou (the contrite CIA analyst)