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Unvaxxed shielders are most at risk,
but people with previous infection should NOT be vaxxed. They actually fare slightly better than vaxxed. But France has decided that their immunity wanes after 4 months. Why?
/solidarites-sante.gouv.fr/actualites/actualites-du-ministere/article/pass-vaccinal-quels-cha ngements-a-partir-du-15-fevrier
by Tom2 on Fri Jan 28th, 2022 at 08:45:30 PM EST
Campbell is discussing this paper in the video

It makes no sense to give booster vaccination to students and teenagers who have been tested positive before.
And now that every family has or had omicron (record number of classes closed ever in France, record number of positive cases in NL), why continuing with blind mass boosting campaign?

Another issue that should be discussed is why two of the US scientists which have been most vocal against mRNA and mass vaccination are always advertising the Falungong's newspaper "Epoch Times"? Does anyone have an idea?

by Tom2 on Fri Jan 28th, 2022 at 08:55:01 PM EST
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"La région espagnole de Catalogne a, pour sa part, décidé de mettre fin à partir de vendredi à l'obligation de présenter un passe sanitaire pour entrer dans les bars, restaurants et salles de sport, le jugeant peu efficace face à la grande contagiosité d'Omicron. « Une partie importante de la population est à nouveau susceptible d'être infectée par le virus », à cause d'Omicron, « indépendamment de son statut vaccinal ou du fait d'avoir déjà contracté la maladie », a justifié, dans un communiqué, le gouvernement régional qui suit ainsi l'avis de son comité d'experts. « En conséquence, l'efficacité de l'utilisation obligatoire du certificat Covid diminue », a-t-il ajouté." Le passe sanitaire est en vigueur pour rentrer dans les bars, restaurants et salles de sport depuis la fin du mois de novembre en Catalogne, région touristique de 7,7 millions d'habitants. Si le nombre de cas reste toujours très élevé dans la région, les hôpitaux ne sont pas aussi saturés que les autorités pouvaient le craindre dans leurs scénarios les plus pessimistes. Il y a une semaine, la Catalogne avait aussi levé le couvre-feu qui était en vigueur entre 1 heure et 6 heures du matin à Barcelone et dans une grande partie de la région depuis la fin décembre. La seule restriction encore en vigueur est la fermeture des discothèques.

Malgré un taux de vaccination élevé, avec 90,7 % de la population de plus de 12 ans entièrement vaccinée, les cas de contamination ont explosé depuis la fin décembre en Espagne, qui possède l'un des taux d'incidence les plus élevés d'Europe."
Le Monde

by Tom2 on Fri Jan 28th, 2022 at 09:38:11 PM EST
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That is not what the CDC was saying last summer.
by asdf on Sat Jan 29th, 2022 at 03:50:52 PM EST
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WaPoo Transcript: Coronavirus Leadership During Crisis with Anthony S. Fauci, MD, 20 May 2021
DR. FAUCI: Well, I don't think we should be that concerned right now about how long they're effective. I think they will be effective long enough that we will get to the point where we are not going to be necessarily worrying about a surge.
DR. FAUCI: Well, Yasmeen, there are several questions there. I think it's first important to point out that we don't really know when we may need a booster. I mean, we're making extrapolations saying that if the level of protection at the correlative immunity starts to wane and come down to below or at a critical level and you may start to see more breakthrough infections, at that point, that would be the trigger.
Of course, you have to put it into the context as follows. When you have an infectious disease and you want to, in essence, address it appropriately, there are three possibilities.
eradicate or eliminate? What's left (not that one, the remainder)?
One, you could eradicate it. That's a very high bar because we've only eradicated one human infectious disease in our entire history, and that is smallpox, with a highly successful vaccination campaign [over 2,500 years].

The next thing is you can eliminate, and you generally do that by having certain countries, usually with good vaccination programs, essentially eliminate the presence of a particular pathogen in society.[
control. That's going to depend entirely on the success, which I believe we're going in the right direction, of the vaccine program, and the more and more people that get vaccinated--and that's the reason why we continue to push to get those people who are reluctant to get vaccinated--to, in fact, get vaccinated, because the closer we get to more and more people getting vaccinated < wipes tears > the more likely you'll LEAN TOWARDS elimination rather than just control.

by Cat on Sat Jan 29th, 2022 at 06:01:09 PM EST
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