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Maybe it's about the NATO that bombed Yugoslavia (without provocation), Libya (without provocation) or Afghanistan (you get the point by now...).
Maybe it's about the NATO that has sanctioned the crap out of Russia, mostly with imaginary pretexts.
Maybe it's about NATO leader unilaterally pulling out of every possible treaty meant to keep the peace, while positioning it's arms closer and closer to Russia.
Maybe it's about NATO that pours weapons, trainers and special forces to a country that claims to be at war with Russia.
Maybe it's about NATO that cheers when Ukraine bans Russian language from public places or closes Russian language media or arrests politicians who are not hell bent to have a war with Russia.
You tell me.

In any case it's not Putin, it's the great majority of the Russians. Heck, even Yeltsin (when he was sober enough) complained about NATO enough to piss Clinton off totally, and he was probably the most West's-ass-licking Russian politician ever (including Navalny).

Russians are not asking Germany to do anything. They know Washington calls the shots in NATO (and thus pretty much in the EU [and thus pretty much in the OCSE]). Germany can't decide to remove the cruise missiles from Poland or Romania. Germany can't stop the USAF from flying to Russian borders "to send a message". Germany won't even tell the US to cut it out to de-escalate before we get WW3.

Thus Germany is meaningless, just like the rest of Europe, until we can figure out our own security policy, one that is not run from Washington and has Russia as a part of it. And that can't happen while NATO exists. Which is weird, since NATO is not aggressive, I'm told - it just can't create neither peace nor security. For some reason.

by pelgus on Wed Jan 19th, 2022 at 07:08:48 PM EST
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NATO bombed Serbia (not Yugoslavia) and that was repulsive.
But I see where you're going with that, and I'll leave it there.

I agree about NATO, because I believe that the EU should defend itself (otherwise it has no objective right to exist). But that means mostly defending itself against Russian neo-expansionism, because the other potential belligerents are further away, and less threatening to EU members.

Bad things happens to Russia's neighbours if they don't belong to defensive alliances. Indisputable fact.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Thu Jan 20th, 2022 at 04:19:17 PM EST
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"The Arc of the Moral Universe is Long, But it Bends Toward Justice."

In the footsteps of a number of Serbian leaders, Kosovo President Thaci charged by ICC in The Hague.

Kosovo's President Steps Down To Face War Crimes Charges

Unfortunately there are elements out there that defy the gravitational forces of Einstein's theory.

Funding "freedom fighters" all across the globe from the America's, SE Asia, Afghanistan, Angola, Chechnya, Iraq, Levant, Libya, and on ... and on.

'Sapere aude'

by Oui (Oui) on Thu Jan 20th, 2022 at 05:29:01 PM EST
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